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Maybe you should have posted that quote first?
Still not a definite plan though. It's not even being debated as a plan. And let's face it, he'll never get enough power to bring it in even if his party agree to it. Which they probably won't ever. |
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I was asked to provide proof of his view on the future of the NHS and I have, I'm drawing a line under this now. |
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You can believe it or don't ... That's your issue. I hope to god they won't, no argument from me there. |
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Forgive me for saying it, but with your above post, its you who is coming across as having the prejudice |
Weirdos.Don't think i would've been so patient,That bloke on the bonnet would've been on the floor spitting teeth and bleeding if i was Farage(why i'm not a politician lol).
Bet they were all scoffing over their carrot juice and tofu sandwiches later at how proud they are about scaring some kids.Wankers. |
Oh my god... suddenly farage is some all conquering hero against the 'loony' left?
That small group does not represent the 'left' nor are their actions here advocated by anyone who truly has the preservation of the NHS and/or disagree with him on any other issue at heart. |
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****ing disgrace. I am far from Farage's biggest fan but this is terrible. It would be bad enough if it was just him harassed when out on his own, but his family too?
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Bad enough.... I know we're English but how else are you to show your depreciation other than vocalise it, stand there and tut? Write a strongly worded letter? ;)
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Farage deserves it
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I have plenty of reasons to dislike Farage, and all of them very valid. |
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The only people that deserve sympathy here are Farage's family, anybody giving it out to the trash himself need to seriously get help imo. |
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We have also seen how on a great number of occasions, where candidates for UKIP are way at odds with things Nigel Farage says anyway,hence his constant need to have to explain what the 'real' thinking is. Were he to win a fair to good number of seats,also since it seems he can be made to backtrack rather easily, who really knows what he and the rest of UKIPs MPs would support or keep standing for as to the NHS. It is that, the obscure detail he will not clearly spell out that leaves me very suspicious as to what UKIP overall,'not just him',would decide for the future of the NHS, given the chance. From the confusion, he and his party have created as to it, I have my suspicions I would not like at all their plans for the NHS, so would not like to see them trusted with it at all,along with their dangerous, in my view, EU policy too. I have my very firm view, the future of the NHS, for those who care about it, will not be safe in the Conservative party's hands,'never under David Cameron's leadership, or UKIPs now too,that is what I think. I am pretty sure were the Lib Dems able to form a coalition govt; with Labour after May, then if Labour can still reverse any of the disastrous top down re-organisation doen in this parliament, that the Lib Dems would likely happily march into the lobby to vote to reverse what they supported over the last few years. A Conservative majority govt; or a Conservative led govt; with UKIP support would probably see,in my view, the end of the NHS as to its founding principles. With then in place good care for those able to finance same from wealth or health insurance Followed with a basic healthcare for those most vulnerable. I really see that happening under this hardline Conservative party,who I felt I couldn't belive and trust with the NHS in 2010 and have been shown to be right to have thought that way then too, and now also UKIP. I trust neither of them and agree with you, there is a lot very unclear as to UKIP on this issue and a right to be very suspicious of them. Voters who 'really' care about the NHS however,cannot say they weren't warned what could happen and likely will if they trust either or both of these 2 with the NHS in May. Having said all that, I deplore these attacks on him and his family. |
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And actually I think some of his policies should be against the law to try and condone imo, like privatising the NHS which hurts the working class, it's attacking a whole group of people which shouldn't be allowed. Protecting the Bankers and blaming it on people on Benefits, and foreigners is very corrupt and unfair grief being given out to these two sets of people (which nobody seems to care about when he started the whole thing off in the first place) and I remember when he had someone in his party who believed in hanging people that believed in the EU. So yes Farage and anybody in that party can get harassed if people want to as imo they've broken many laws along with the Tories if it was Russia or a Middle East country doing the same thing. So yes people protest, although not like the Riots. |
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I don't agree with the attacks on him and his family while out anywhere, however, Nigel Farage by his 'foreigner; statements and blaming immigration for near all the UKs ills has helped fuel anger and suspicion against those groups of people too. So in a subtle way, he is causing fear and concern for other groups of people by his intolerant rhetoric towards them, as you are indicating he has done too. That equally is something that should be abhorrent to the UK. That too however,since UKIP is identified as occupying the far right side of politics, is coming from the right and has nothing to do with left wing loonies at all. In the late 80s,I am told, if you blamed Europe for the problems in the UK and advocated leaving Europe, you were considered dangerous and from the loony left. Now it is the right of politics that seek or more likely want to do that,so what does that make them in that case. |
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I hope he gets that in stereo everywhere he goes. |
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Firstly, it was the lack of regulation and encouragement by governments that created an environment for bankers to lend as they did. Secondly, no one, and i mean no one, did more to protect the bankers than Gordon Brown and the then labour government You are vastly exaggerating Nigel's stance on immigration. He wants controls on it ... have we forgotten so quickly Gordon Brown's famous sound byte, British jobs for British people? This was the prime minister at the time, The purpose of a democracy is to PEACEFULLY debate and explore issues of the day, arriving at consensus which then drives future policy. Harassing those that speak out and question the current systems, is not democracy, far from it. |
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The bankers lent money they didn't have, they were bailed out because they had no money, what else could a PM do to protect the economy? You are forgetting Farages very forgiving stance on blatant and repeated racism within his party even today he is in the news again passing racist comments off as a 'joke'..... yes, it's funny if you're a fan of bigoted 70's sitcoms maybe? Anyone has the right to speak as and when they like against things that infringe or damage our civil liberties, the purpose of a democracy is to listen and act according to the will of the majority of the voting electorate who have cast their vote on the strength of your promises via a manifesto.... Does this happen?....no! Politicians lie through their back teeth to get in and once in do what the eff they like, so if they can't play by the rule why the hell should anyone else?..... |
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