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MTVN 03-04-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7679719)
Its easy to take that view when your own country is 10 ntimes biugger than any other in the union etc etc

I would imagine if you lived in Wales , NI or Scotland your view may differ as it would if Scotland had 50 million and england 5.

It's easy because it's true: no one outside of Scotland can vote SNP, they do want to break up the Union, and they do think they should have more powers and more money. Not hard to see why that is disagreeable to English voters no matter how much we are portrayed as bloated overlords desperate to keep the poor Scots and Welsh down. IMO the Union won't survive more than another two decades, and just as important as the SNP and Plaid Cymru to that will be when England gets fed up of always being the villain of the play. If a Labour/SNP coalition is the result of the election there will be a hell of a lot of Englanders wishing that Scotland would have voted Yes after all.

Kizzy 03-04-2015 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 7679718)
The EU for the UK has been an unmitigated disaster.

And what is the proposed alternative?

Kizzy 03-04-2015 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 7679713)
I agree, bit ironic that she wants each countries votes counted in referendum on Europe so they won't be dragged out when her party would have taken Scotland out of Europe had they won a yes vote

How is this, I thought she was totally against leaving the EU?

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-eu-referendum

Kizzy 03-04-2015 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 7679730)
It's easy because it's true: no one outside of Scotland can vote SNP, they do want to break up the Union, and they do think they should have more powers and more money. Not hard to see why that is disagreeable to English voters no matter how much we are portrayed as bloated overlords desperate to keep the poor Scots and Welsh down. IMO the Union won't survive more than another two decades, and just as important as the SNP and Plaid Cymru to that will be when England gets fed up of always being the villain of the play. If a Labour/SNP coalition is the result of the election there will be a hell of a lot of Englanders wishing that Scotland would have voted Yes after all.

We are portrayed as bloated overlords as our current government are governing like bloated overlords.

the truth 03-04-2015 01:25 PM

in the end its either Cameron or miliband and id say Cameron did a lot better.

Crimson Dynamo 03-04-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7679762)
in the end its either Cameron or miliband and id say Cameron did a lot better.

he did but then he holds all the aces on the economy and its the economy that elections are won and lost on..

billy123 03-04-2015 01:39 PM

This forums ever increasing stupidity and growing racial intolerance never ceases to amaze.
Do people just hear Farages carefully worded quips or do they even attempt to think about the consequences of what he is actually saying?
This bigoted man is very dangerous. "Aww but he is just a mate from the pub" fcuk me and i thought Boris with his buffoon act was dangerous this **** leaves him in the dirt.

Kizzy 03-04-2015 01:40 PM

Only yougov has cameron ahead.

hijaxers 03-04-2015 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7679762)
in the end its either Cameron or miliband and id say Cameron did a lot better.

Better - he made himself look like a complete clown

bbollie99 03-04-2015 01:46 PM

Natallie B won without a doubt, followed by Sturgent and Wood!

the truth 03-04-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 7679797)
Better - he made himself look like a complete clown

I agree miliband was embarrassing, he was a massive part of the wreckage of the last labour disaster, last night we saw his whole blarist persona his over coaching, his look to the question , turn to camera raise out the arm pointing with bent hand cue fake smile .....awful.

arista 03-04-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bbollie99 (Post 7679802)
Natallie B won without a doubt, followed by Sturgent and Wood!

She was left alone alot
as she will not get any MP's
other than Caroline
predictions are saying

the truth 03-04-2015 01:51 PM

the green hippy was reading from notes a lot didn't look good

Kizzy 03-04-2015 02:20 PM

She made one great point, and that was to resopnd to the real winner Victoria Prosser who highlighted the plight of homeless ex military and fracking.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ctoria-prosser

Samuel. 03-04-2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7679788)
This forums ever increasing stupidity and growing racial intolerance never ceases to amaze.
Do people just hear Farages carefully worded quips or do they even attempt to think about the consequences of what he is actually saying?
This bigoted man is very dangerous. "Aww but he is just a mate from the pub" fcuk me and i thought Boris with his buffoon act was dangerous this **** leaves him in the dirt.

:clap2:

JoshBB 03-04-2015 02:43 PM

Leanne Wood for sure.

What the **** are you all on.. nigel farage. lmao. is this the annual kkk meetup?

the truth 03-04-2015 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7679842)
She made one great point, and that was to resopnd to the real winner Victoria Prosser who highlighted the plight of homeless ex military and fracking.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ctoria-prosser

yes those are points that the opponents to the tories should hammer on about....but miliband failed to bring it up. and natalie just briefly touched on..the treatment of ex soldiers is a sick joke....Cameron even rambled about charities helping them...FCKING charities? patronising twaddle...they should get compensation a fat pension and military hopsitals....fracking is another nightmare on the horizon. also no one mentioned the severn barrage which should have happened 30 years ago already , but its never too late

arista 03-04-2015 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7679842)
She made one great point, and that was to resopnd to the real winner Victoria Prosser who highlighted the plight of homeless ex military and fracking.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ctoria-prosser


Yes but that 33 year old broke the rule
& had to be dragged out

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...8010540205.jpg

Crimson Dynamo 03-04-2015 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7679788)
This forums ever increasing stupidity and growing racial intolerance never ceases to amaze.
Do people just hear Farages carefully worded quips or do they even attempt to think about the consequences of what he is actually saying?
This bigoted man is very dangerous. "Aww but he is just a mate from the pub" fcuk me and i thought Boris with his buffoon act was dangerous this **** leaves him in the dirt.

The irony of your post is brilliant


I know better than all you idiots and you are all idiots for liking an idiot who thinks he knows it all


:rolleyes:

Crimson Dynamo 03-04-2015 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7679842)
She made one great point, and that was to resopnd to the real winner Victoria Prosser who highlighted the plight of homeless ex military and fracking.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ctoria-prosser

no she embarrassed herself and did not respect democracy.

Dave dealt with her immature petulance well

Cherie 03-04-2015 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7679788)
This forums ever increasing stupidity and growing racial intolerance never ceases to amaze.
Do people just hear Farages carefully worded quips or do they even attempt to think about the consequences of what he is actually saying?
This bigoted man is very dangerous. "Aww but he is just a mate from the pub" fcuk me and i thought Boris with his buffoon act was dangerous this **** leaves him in the dirt.

No need to lump all forum users in with the kippers :nono:

Kizzy 03-04-2015 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7679894)
no she embarrassed herself and did not respect democracy.

Dave dealt with her immature petulance well

I don't feel she did, I was very proud of her impassioned stance on behalf of others... Many politicians should take note.

the truth 03-04-2015 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 7679861)
Leanne Wood for sure.

What the **** are you all on.. nigel farage. lmao. is this the annual kkk meetup?

ah youre just after a milf lol

Kizzy 03-04-2015 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 7679581)
:facepalm: Kirk sets off with a van load of sand and cement to begin rebuilding Hadrian's Wall. :laugh:

Farage must have the same idea, his policies are built on pillars of sand.

Crimson Dynamo 03-04-2015 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7679900)
I don't feel she did, I was very proud of her impassioned stance on behalf of others... Many politicians should take note.

take note of what, thinking she is above the rules, ruining people's enjoyment, shouting like an oik. It was embarrassing. If she is so keen go and stand for a party and make a difference.


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