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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7699803)

one thinggs for sure with the feminazis emboldened male suicides will hit new records....marriages will soon stop happening at all...there will be no fathers left.....economically spiritually we will all be the poorer. it will be interesting to see in future decades when men are used and abused simply as sperm donors and money banks what men will do about it? sooner or later the message will hit home...WOMEN DONT WANT MEN THEY DONT CARE LESS ABOUT MEN, THEY BLAME THEM FOR AL THE WORLDS ILLS DUE TO THEIR OVER SIMPLIFIED FEMINIST DOCTRINE OF HATE AND IGNORANCE...IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE JUST HOW AMAZINGLY PERFECT AND CAPABLE THESE SINGLE MOTHERS REALLY ARE WHEN MEN DESERT THEM. GO BUILD THE ROADS YOURSELVES AND THE ELECTRIC FIX THE PLUMBING SYSTEMS BUILD THE SKYSCRAPERS BUILD YOUR OWN CARS .....SEE HOW EASY IT IS WHEN YOU WANT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR EVERYTHING....GOOD LUCK. MEN CAN BE LEFT IN PEACE.

Goodness gracious me

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7700232)

Goodness gracious me

Quite an understated response, considering LOL...

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7699803)

Wow... That's a lot of woman rage...!!!

It will be nice to have a woman as head of state instead of a man but fat chance of that happening in a patriarchal society like America. If only women had more positions of power we could drag HUMANITY FORWARD YEARS BUT ITS JUST A PIPE DREAM

Hillary Clinton signals break with past in Iowa call to end 'uncontrolled money'

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Hillary Clinton said campaign finance reform would be a central plank of her presidential bid on Tuesday, revealing a determination to reinvent her political profile as a more humble, populist figure for the 2016 election.

Clinton used a visit to an Iowa college – her first scheduled appearance as a candidate – to say that reforming a “dysfunctional” system of US political funding would be one of four pillars in her run for the White House.

It was a bold stance from Clinton, who has long courted the support of Wall Street hedge funds and is widely expected to benefit from the most expensively financed campaign in US presidential history.

“We need to fix our dysfunctional political system and get unaccountable money out of it once and for all – even if that takes a constitutional amendment,” she said.

Clinton later told reporters she wanted to get “the uncontrolled money out of politics again”.

She unveiled the proposal before students and faculty in a car mechanic’s workshop that had been set up like a film set for her much-anticipated arrival in Iowa.

A thin yellow rope separated the cameras from a backdrop of oily car parts and hydraulic lifts. On a nearby white board were instructions about automotive repair that could just as well been a campaign memo about the renovation of Clinton’s image.

“Verify Concern – Determine Related Symptoms – Analyze,” the note said. “Isolate – Correct.”

Clinton was seated just a few feet away, introducing herself anew to the country through the lens of a small gathering at Kirkwood Community College, on the outskirts of Monticello.

“I just want to tell you a little bit about why I’m here,” she said, adding that there were “pretty powerful forces” that would oppose her campaign platform.

Clinton unveiled her key policies that will define the first stage of her bid for the White House: improving the economy, strengthening families, reforming campaign finance rules and defending the country from foreign threats.

Her decision to include campaign finance reform in the platform stood out.
It is not unusual for Democrats to call for reforming the system of campaign finance rules, particularly since the 2010 US supreme court decision that unleashed unlimited corporate donations to political Super Pacs.

Clinton, though, has long been associated with the super-rich, particularly through her family foundation. And Wall Street was a strong supporter of her Senate campaigns in 2000 and 2006, as well as her first run for the presidency in 2008.
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But in a sign her advisers want to break with the past, and win over progressives on the left of the party, Clinton incorporated campaign finance reform into what is a solidly populist economic platform.

“It’s fair to say that if you look across the country, the deck is still stacked in favor of those already at the top,” she said. “And here’s something wrong with that.”

She added: “There’s something wrong when hedge fund managers pay lower tax rates than nurses or the truckers I saw on I-80 as I drove here the past few days.”

Her announcement was immediately welcomed by campaign finance reformers.

“That one of Clinton’s first policy proposals in her campaign is to address our broken campaign finance system speaks volumes about the role the issue money in politics will play in the 2016 campaign,” said David Donnelly, president of Every Voice, one of the leading groups trying to diminish the influence of money in politics.

Hillary Clinton speaks at her first campaign event in Iowa on Tuesday.

The 1,000-mile road trip that brought Clinton from her home in Chappaqua, New York, to north-eastern Iowa, was a clever piece of political stagecraft designed to recast the image of the world’s most famous female politician as an everyday American.

Over the last 48 hours, her campaign team has leaked morsels to the media, which has been desperate for details.

Clinton, they said, had chatted with a family at a gas station in Pennsylvania, and ordered guacamole, iced tea and a chicken burrito bowl during her stop at a Chipotle restaurant in Maumee, Ohio.

None of those details were released by accident.

They are part of a highly choreographed reinvention of Hillary Clinton for 2016 as a political veteran who can relate to everyday Americans and cares more about rebalancing the country’s economy than herself.

It is a strategy one senior campaign official said was intended to project “humility”.

Yet there were details in the road trip theatrics that served as a reminder that no amount of spin can change the reality that Clinton is political royalty and has spent the best part of three decades in a protective bubble.

Clinton went largely undetected in the Mexican restaurant, for example, and surveillance footage later showed she had been wearing sunglasses indoors.

The GMC van that Clinton’s aides told reporters she had nicknamed ‘Scooby’, after a van featured in the Scooby-Doo cartoon, had blacked-out windows and was driven by secret service.

The former first lady, it turns out, has not driven her own vehicle since 1996.

Fostering authentic, personal interactions with voters in coffee shops and gas stations was never going to be easy. Doing so at an Iowa community college, before the studied gaze of the American media, was destined to be even harder.

The arrival of her van at the Iowa community college sent hundreds of journalists and satellite trucks into a frenzy. Most had been waiting outside for the first glimpse of Clinton as a 2016 candidate in what has so far been a low-key campaign.

Only local TV cameras – and a handful of print and online media that included the Guardian – were allowed inside the college to watch Clinton spend an hour talking to seven students and teachers.

It was Iowa’s first-in-the-nation caucus that unravelled during Clinton’s last presidential run, in 2008, after she was forced into third place by Barack Obama and John Edwards.

That crushing defeat was largely attributed to Clinton’s failure to connect with Iowans, who complained she seemed distant and aloof, criss-crossing the country in a chartered helicopter.

The community college visits was intended to convey the rebranded Clinton, and she began by laying out a brief biography.

It was a history that placed more emphasis more on her upbringing, her relationship with her mother, her church and her time as an attorney in Arkansas than her time as first lady, New York senator or as secretary of state.

After a cautious start on Tuesday, in which she repeatedly glanced at her notes, Clinton began to look more confident.

“When I look at where we are as a country, I’m just so absolutely convinced that there isn’t anybody, anywhere, who can out-compete us, who has better values,” she said.

Later she added: “I just feel like I couldn’t walk away from what I see as the challenges we face.”

There were even one or two jokes. Talking about the importance of early childhood education, and the need to talk, read and sing to babies, Clinton quipped: “My poor granddaughter – her first words are going to be ‘Stop it’.”

Clinton took time to ask students and teachers about their lives and hopes for the future, encouraged quiet participants to speak up, and engaged on substantive policy.
Hillary Clinton in Monticello
Clinton talks with students and educators in Monticello as the American media look on. Photograph: Rick Wilking/Reuters

And responding to a criticism that was made of her approach in Iowa seven years ago, Clinton was the last to leave the room, instead of the first.

Clinton’s operatives acknowledge that organising future small-scale events in Iowa, with the country’s media in tow, is going to be a challenge.

But they insist the strategy is the right approach for a campaign that has learned from the past and takes no votes for granted. That, anyway, is the script.

The reality is that Clinton currently faces no serious Democratic competition and is unlikely to.

The only Democrat who could mount an insurgent, Obama-style push to unite progressives in the party is Elizabeth Warren, and she has made clear she will not enter the race.

Whatever happens in Iowa, Clinton already looks destined to be the Democratic candidate for 2016.

She will run for the country’s highest elected office with a campaign that strikes to push back at the sense Clinton has become too familiar to an electorate who are tired of the Washington establishment.

That much was made clear in one exchange with reporters that was missed by the TV cameras. Asked about her road trip, she replied with what sounded like a campaign metaphor.

“One of the highlights was seeing the spring, finally,” Clinton told reporters. “Daffodils and tulips and flowering trees.”

Clinton isn’t running against a credible Democratic opponent. She’s running against her past.

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And the lying has started already. IS this the same Hillary who was paid a six figure sum as a speaker by the same people who provide the 'uncontrolled money' in politics? I think Hillary is gonna struggle to denounce the same people who have been providing large chunks of her income for the past few years.

Whilst I can see why people are excited about Hilary, I really don't think she's cut out for the job... I don't think anyone in recent years has been cut out for the job, really. I mean it's not even in US politics, it's pretty much everywhere.

We need a president who will take no ****, isn't afraid to say things how they are, but is also aware and supporting of modern society...

I've not seen anyone like that, but I would totally support them if they existed...

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Originally Posted by the_truthette (Post 7700433)

sexist nonsense
ask people from nations with female leaders if the violence has fallen ?
ask people with female mps if they've backed more or less wars?
98% of the women in blairs new labour, most of whom got in through illegal women only short lists all around the uk, 98% of them voted in favour of his illegal wars

I guess youre one who demands the female average wage across the whole of uk and usa should equal that of men? strange how no women firefighters were climbing the twin towers on 911 heading for almost certain death? strange how few female cops you see fighting armed robbers? strange how few women you saw enterig bin ladens compound in Pakistan? strange how few women you even see cleaning out the sewers or tarmacking roads or fixing plumbing or fixing electris or pylons or building skyscrapers? they don't want to take the same risks or dirty jobs yet want the exact same pay across the board? what rubbish....if you want the same pay across the entire country you have 2 choices all these women must do the same job to the same incredibly high level spend their entire lives doing so and putting their lives at risk as much as men and working ungodly hours and sticking at the same job with little career breaks....if you want it all you have to pay the price

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Its so obvious what Hillary is up to. She's never come out against the amount of money in politics but suddenly its her number one issue. It smells so much like bullsh*t that I'd be surprised if anyone is fooled. This is the same Hillary who was paid a six figure sum by Goldman Sachs - one of the fattest of all fat cats - for giving a speech just a few months ago.

Anyone who criticized Obama for not doing enough about the Wall Street Fat cats take note Hillary will do even less.

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7701228)

Complete and utter codswallop.

It's not easy to get in jobs like that if you are a woman because males don't want them in unless of course they look like Mila Kunis in which case they would get hired to stand around and be oggled at all day by misogynistic men pigs who can think of nothing better than where they would like to stick their filthy man hoods in. The facts are women are more calm, empathic and caring in general so it would make complete sense to have more women in power instead of power hungry men who care about hookers and guns and making themselves look good on telly. Why don't you go and make another thread about 'sexiest MPs' because that's all a man seems to think about. I find it disgusting myself I only care about if a person is good enough for the job NOT HOW GOOD THEY WOULD LOOK IN MY BED...why don't you all go and live on Mars and leave the good earth in the hands of a feminine touch. We will take care of it don't worry....

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7701237)

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I agree...her and bill have always been in the pockets of the corporations, but Hilary even moreso
as for Obama hes had way too much stick....if you look at his record in the cold light of day hes achieved a lot. furthermore hes been inclusive hes tried his utmost to include everyone under his tent all races all religions , both genders too

Obama has hammered the banks hes fined them billions , record fines across the board , he spent months re regulating them and huge wall street reforms
(way way way more than we did in this idiotic country of ours)
passed the packages for stimulus a few times

the property market is now stronger is the us
the jobs unemployement has falled more than half from 10.8 to 5.5%

hes implemented the first PRESIDENT EVER healthcare system across the board and he DID hit all his targets...the premiums will fall as the system grows

foreign policy .....HES light years ahead of bush....no historinics no brainless rhetoric , always the olive branch offered....hes negotiated a nuclear deal with iran (rather than another mindless 20 year war)
hes got bin laden, and dozens of other al Qaeda bosses and Taliban leaders either killed or captured, he took a back seat role in ousting ghadaffi (not sure Libya is better off or not)
overthrew eqyptian tyrant Mubarak after 30 years

ended the Iraq and afghan wars
ended bush torture
increased spending on war veterans
reduced the military budget for weapons

slapped huge tariffs on the Chinese imports....reinvested a few trillion in American infrastructure.....taken the American car manufacturers to the worlds number 1 again
reinvested in stem cell research
tightened tobacco regulations
increased green regulations
scrapped another moon landing
invested in renewable technology
scrapped nuclear defence
stock market more than doubled in value in his tenure to record highs
growth and employment way outstripped all of Europe

etc etc etc

a remarkable man a gentleman and a scholar

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Originally Posted by the_truthette (Post 7701265)

IM embarrassed for you writing such complete and utter trash......no doubt you wont spout all that sexist drivel the next time a MAN saves your life or your friends and family or fixes your electrics or plumbing or roads or cars or building or goes to fight and die in a war fightg for our freedoms and those of other women...take a minutes silence to think of all those legendary MEN who fought and died in those burning twin towers on September 11th to save toehr peoples lives....think too of the 80 million MEN who died fighting for your freedom in 2 world wars against the evil tyranny of fascism .....or those poor men who fought and died in Vietnam average age 19.....shame on you:nono:

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7701272)

Are we talking about the same gender who created those wars in the first place, only to pillage and cause disgusting sex crimes against those innocent women who have nothing to do with it all? No sir, shame on you :nono:

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Originally Posted by the_truthette (Post 7700433)

Are you 'Mrs The Truth' or related?

Better explain the above is humour.

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Originally Posted by the_truthette (Post 7701273)

what mindless sexist poisonous ignorance.....wars are created by men and women, young boys are exploited in these 3rd world nations too...many die young fighting or even as suicide bombers... the british queens like bloody mary killed of thousands, simply for being protestant or being irish....you they have been every bit as ruthless as the men....

you are aware there were 100s of female executioners at auschwitz? killing off the jews? strange hoe the feminists forget all that conveniently....have a read about Irma grese or ilse koch, educate yourself. try isabelle of castile another butchering monarch....the list of female serial killers is endless, mary ann cotton, myra Hindley, Elizabeth bittory, rose west, tracy wigginton, Katherine mary wright..etc...loads of mob bosses and drugs barons have been women too...take a look at Griselda blanco, ...womens prisons are jam packed with serial killers? where have you been? there are far more cases of abusive women than men?

wars are not about gender theyre about greed, power, lust, wealth, land, resources, information, knowledge, oil, etc etc the sooner you unbrainwash yourself from this evil male hating over simplistic drivel the better. the world has evil in it, men and women both carry evil within them....when evil takes control it takes a brave capable person to fight it....singing peaceful hippy songs is all well and good...but when a psycho takes charge then what? there is no gender war, you fell for the divide and conquer lies....

The war is and always will be between the very rich and the rest of the world
they pollute the airwaves with false propaganda, they set country against country, culture against culture, religion against religion and yes men versus women...its all divide and conquer, get us fighting amongst ourselves so we take our eye off the real culprits

working class men have never ruled any world..theyve never had rights with their children...they've always been slaves to the monarchy, conscripted forced to die in wars for the rich (rich men and women) to maintain the staus quo and build their wealth..or died for peanuts in coal pits and slate quarries....the working class men never had a vote themselves 120 years ago, not just women....they had to vote for their rich landowners (men or women) or else face eviction....my great grand dad died fighting another war for the rich....my grand dad also fought , he was dirt poor...had to walk 15 miles to work every day to dig coal and yrs later to bake bread then walk home in worn out shoes to hand all the mony over to my grandmother to feed and clothe ths kids....

feminism is biased lies and warped bitter revisionist history which never looks at the whole picture just the bit they want to see...did our first female prime minister show this great compassion and empathy when she set her own army and police force against her own 1.5 million pacifist weapon-less underpaid coal miners? insane....thus destroying 1.5 million lives and drowning the coal mines with 1000 years left of the worlds bets coal...where was this legendary female only compassion when she sunk the argentiian ship the belgrano , FOR NO REASON OTHER THAN TO LOOK AS TOUGH AS A MAN...it was and could never ever be justified...she of course wanted to win the upcoming election...now we have a female leader of argentina whos provoking for a war all the time with the brits....

this whole men are evil women are good is plain stupid pack of lies .its a very dangerous divisive damaging pack of lies....but it works for the very rich of course to see us all squabbling, its all lies
in the meantime pay some respect to the forefathers who fought and died fighting fascism and pure evil for the freedoms you enjoy today, oh and thank all the men for cleaning your sewers, fixing your roads, your cars, your trains, your electrics, your plumbing, fighting violent crime, risking lives in burning buildings too

the ONLY war is between the very rich and the rest

I actually see Hilary as strong, think she would be a good President for the USA.

I would say give the Lady a chance at it, she for sure I doubt, couldn't do any worse than the Bush's.

Athough if I were American I would be a democrat supporter anyway.

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7702593)

Hillary is so strong shes no longer a Democrat.

She's dodgy Joey, theres no doubt about it. This new progressive stance is totally the opposite of what she's been up to for the past few years. She's corporatist who has received large sums of money from big business I dont see how she can claim she's anything else. As for the private e-mail account that she used instead of the governemt account? There may be a perfectly good reason for it but there is always something going on with the Clintons that must be kept secret.

Hilary supported a resolution in 2002 that supported bush illegal invasion of iraq and allowed him to use nuclear missiles if necessary......so much for being a pacifist liberal with good judgement? Shes insane

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The right wing media like Hillary. Yet another reason why she's all wrong for the presidency.