Yes, well done, we have a high percentage of absent fathers in Liverpool. That's not all poor innocent men being deprived of access by evil mothers. That's overly simplistic and narrow minded.

..I agree Helen, it was over-eating and lack of exercise etc but it's also the reasons for that addiction and whether it could have been prevented from getting to this extent..and yeah it's a lot of maybes because I don't know, maybe the help was there when she was a child and it just wasn't acted on..there is 22yrs to this story and all we know is how she is now/her weight...

Too true. In fact if the rescue operation cost 10,000 then make the parents foot the bill.

My thoughts exactly. I have sympathy for her but it is tempered by the facts that she and her family and her doctor and Health visitors are ALL culpabable.

I don't know what's happening but I AGREE with you again. :shrug: :laugh:

Seriously - you are right in my book; people do tend to look upon 'food addiction' as NO addiction - let alone a 'lesser' addiction than drugs or drink, but it IS an addiction and I can't believe that Anyone who is sane would deliberately elect to eat and eat until they became like this unfortunate woman.

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The scales fell from your eyes kirk? :hehe:

I think the problem stems from young kids being fed adult sized portions as kids. If you happen to be part of a family that over eats on top of that, well, you stand no chance of being slim. By the time you have reached an age to know what you are doing is bad for you, its largely too late, you have already been abusing yourself for the majority of your life. Parents are ultimately responsible, as they feed the child in the first place

absolutely

That would buy some food for the food banks:hehe:

the end result is a disaster so everyone is to blame, te only argument is how you apportion the blame in order to work out how to solve such a crisis and stop it happening repeatedly

..yeah I agree truth, she seems to have been 'neglected' in many ways and it's being alerted to this type of obesity from childhood not being something that keeps happening and getting the help needed...

yet another insane tale in this basket case of a country...How did we get to the stage where a 22 year old kid is 55 stones and we're not really allowed to talk about it without being labelled mean nasty bullies by the politicially correct bullies etc etc This is the trouble with a politically correct culture where people are not allowed freedom of speech, the politicians have taken this away from us all....dumbed us down to such a degree that were not even allowed to say this child is grossly overweight for fear of being labelled a vile nasty abusive bully and this false outrage is lead of course by politicians trying to gain the moral political upper hand...orwell said big government will take away the meaning of our language, destroys the words then steal whats left of the language completely for its own purposes....this is all relevant to how we end up with people like this abused broken probably lacking social support and education. obesity has been on the rise for decades, funny that has risen with the growth of global supermarkets and mass advertising. even the Olympics was promoting trash food

The fact is we have been dumbed down to such an extent we cant see whats happening in front of our very eyes until its too take.....and everything is relevant and everything is inter connected. the controlling state, the controlling ruling classes, the language, the oppression of thought and expression, the over simplification through erosion of thought and language, the peer pressure and the war against its own people.....weve actually reached a stage now where we cant talk, cant communicate freely for fear of reprisal, massive subjects which affect us all cannot really be discussed in mainstream society. why are we all on here discussing these topics anonymously instead of in the mainstream? will we always be allowed this anonymity? people have already used google in court cases as a method to discredit opponents, that's thought crimes made real...we cant even dig for our own minerals in the ground because big government has made it unaffordable. so we have to get poor Africans paid slave wages to dig our coal abroad. nations cant control their currency, their economies, their own laws or borders. massive European government has helped increase the size of monopolies by hammering smaller to medium businesses and preventing them from competiting in the market place with endless new expensive laws rules regulations tariffs etc etc the EU is a massive cartel for the monopolies....preventing free trade rather than enabling it, in so doing the exact opposite of what it claimed it was set up for.....politicians usually mock those who criticize the EU and create fear.....how will humanity go on with the EU ...we will be banned forever from selling our cars and hats and scarves.....what utter lies..any society with too many laws is ultimately more corrupt and more elistist because only the elites can afford to navigate these laws....and they've ensured we're not really allowed to talk about it.

This was done partly by the invention of new words, but chiefly by eliminating undesirable words and stripping such words as remained of unorthodox meanings, and so far as possible of all secondary meaning whatever."[2] The idea that language influences worldview is linguistic relativity.

The aim is to remove all shades of meaning from language, .... indoctrination, or repression of critical thinking,designed not to extend but to diminish the range of thought, and this purpose was indirectly assisted by cutting the choice of words down to a minimum.

The whole literature of the past will have been destroyed. Chaucer, Shakespeare, Milton, Byron—they'll exist only in Newspeak versions, not merely changed into something different, but actually contradictory of what they used to be. Even the literature of the Party will change. Even the slogans will change. How could you have a slogan like "freedom is slavery" when the concept of freedom has been abolished? The whole climate of thought will be different. In fact there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking—not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness

I suggest to all parents to seriously take a look at the material your kids are being taught in schools now. The subtleties, nuances are being eaten away. Kids are indoctrinated more now than ever before. The courses and the teaching methods allied to the political agendas have given a far more narrow view of many non scientific subjects such as the humanities. Through all this control allied to the enormous peer pressure of the internet age where thought crimes are handed to the government or the ruling classes on a plate. where does all this info go? big government and big corporations who use it to sell to you , to punish you and control you


The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact for their purposes.

The destruction of true society, of families, the division and conquer of the people has been deliberate for centuries. Wars wont simply be between countries and superstates they will be internally waged against their own people, war on language, war on thought, war on freedom, playing everyone against each other , war will be perpetual and continuous so will not be called war anymore and the party slogan will be....

War is peace!