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..also the 'cheek implant' thread just made me think as well, Helen always said that she wanted to have urr boobs done again so obviously wasn't totally happy with her body and has also had other surgeries as well so I presume things that she wasn't happy with so saying that Jack is a moaner etc is fine or whatever else she thinks of his character... but the 'fat' and attacking someone else's physical appearance in her insults just shows her to be the ironic hypocrite that she is and not 'truthful at all' just someone who wants to find any 'weakness' in others to insult and offend because she finds them boring or doesn't like them...in any dictionary that is no definition of 'truth or honesty' but just a mean spirited, bitter, spiteful and hateful person....
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the nasty comments aimed towards older hms or those who have had surgery these too may have issues and yet there are countless threads and derogatory comments made about them. The reason that comments about Jack are seized upon is becouse he is an 'everyday person' someone who is considered 'normal' lovely grumbly chubby jack is just like lots of teens we know.... should that exempt him from criticism should we all redirect our ire to the damaged goods like harry maybe? Helen can and does say what she likes, as does joel if you've noticed with his little monologues on immorality, they are no less cutting only the delivery is different. When people say hurtful things if you sugar the pill it's still poison, I know this. |
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..’immorality’ is a judgement on someone’s character which is what housemates do as do the public/viewers which is based on their own personal judgement of what they personally think is ‘immoral’ and also not the ‘truth’....it’s not a judgement of physical appearance from someone who has been unhappy enough to have had surgery to make changes to their own physical appearance or in total disregard to anyone’s feelings...and Jack is not ‘exempt’ from anything obviously as his physical size has been referred to many times but that doesn’t make it any less unnecessary to do so or to applaud anyone who does so by excusing it as being ‘honesty’ ...Helen aims to hurt and offend, Helen aims to ‘entertain’, Helen aims to deliver what is expected of her, nothing even remotely resembling ‘truth’ or ‘honesty’....and if that 'fat' housemate was a public favourite that 'honestly' would not be applauded as such a positive trait at all...but of course she knows exactly where public popularity lays and what to 'pick at'.....
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However I do not and would not judge or deride anyone for just their appearance, how they talk or as to age. Especially moreso as to those I do not know at all either. Obviously if someone gets at me, I will retaliate but will still try to do so,to the best of my ability,as to relevant facts and not appearance, age or looks. There is simply no need at all to deride people for how they look or their weight or their age. There are people overweight in my own family and friends, I would not get at them for that or even comment on it and certainly never use weight as an issue to get at someone. I judge people on how they act towards others and how they treat them too, not on looks,weight or anything else. |
first off Helen is not fat.jack is fat.she is moaning cause past shows before marc got in were getting boring as ****
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Personally I don't. Immorality is based on personal perception and there is no definitive 'truth' however no matter which way you look at him Jack is fat. |
Jack may be fat but you can't deny he's very good looking.
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İ feel sorry for helen because she is fking dumb. She can only attack people on their apperance. "Fat bitch" to jale "skinny little prick" to matthew and "fat c" to jack
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There were no lies in what Helen called him
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Insults whether against someone personally, socially or spiritually have been up for discussion yes, that's a good point ammi they have all insulted each other I wouldn't say one more than the other just some more overt in varying degrees. I'm not running in a circle I just won't distinguish one form of insult from another, if one is wrong they all are. |
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Whether we like it or not firstly we are judged on appearances,that is the way it is and like him or loathe him Jack IS overweight, plenty of people are calling Helen out on her looks and having a good old giggle . swings and roundabouts
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And to be honest, if someone has a valid opinion and is capable of articulating that, they won't need to resort to appearance-related pettiness. |
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In other words... The more obnoxious, nasty and odious you are, the better the person you are, because those of us who don't act like that are either fake, boring or sugaring the pill. Tragic. |
"like Helen was last year trying to destroy people"
Yes BJ It was Amazing and Spunky |
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