Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7926284)

Joel..the Lapdog.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7928132)

Your put downs as to how she controls her son,which you have no idea of, your inability to see that she has watched the show and knows Marc has never said a bad thing about her Son or done anything against him.
You then put her down for supporting a bully,when all she did was thank him for looking out for him after the bunker task.

None of which in my view are appropriate or even correct and you were the one who also chose to describe her as his Mother as fair game to be got at after her very brief appearance in the house,not me.

She is probably for all you know a brilliant Mother and he a really good Son to her too.
Values you seem to infer they either don't have and need criticising for as to any influence one may have with the other.

I repeat,I would not like at all my Mother classed as fair game,(what a term), by anyone who didn't know anything about her at all really for just doing an invited and very brief appearance on a reality TV show.

Originally Posted by BENDERBOY (Post 7925164)

I was one of his biggest supporters, mainly because i wanted to do him...

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7926697)

:joker: Stop making her out to be this intimidating matriarch ,she isn't she's just loud and harsh,you give her far too much credit,not that I mind,I like her.

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7931841)

Kazanne that's your opinion...it's not mine.
She is intimidating...and that's not credit!!...also there is nothing nasty on here. This is a topic on Joel..nothing nasty just opinions.

Originally Posted by just thinkin (Post 7931743)

lol you call me commenting on what his mother actually did being 'nasty' - wow what must you think of helen and marc and their lapdog - :joker:

Originally Posted by Tarryn (Post 7932022)

He was the only HM who did not grate on me UNTIL the legends came in.
Now he just seems to follow them around & is kind of ignoring his old friends.
Am I the only one who does not really like anybody in that house :shrug:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7932044)

I think you were wrong to call his Mother fair game,yes.

Also yes I do think Helen and Marc are nasty and go way over the top at times.
In fact there are at least 3 now rather nasty people in there,in my view.
I have said that plenty in my posts on here.

I do not see someone being friendly with near all in the house as anyones lapdog.

You see him negatively even to deriding his Mother, I don't, I see him positively.
You can only keep pulling me up on daft petty things and I do think, with respect, we have really exhausted the point of carrying on as to that now.

Originally Posted by abhorson (Post 7932049)

No.

I am now just going on who is the least worse. Been an mediocre bunch this year.