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• it was scripted way in advance of the event and not spontaneous in any way

Now why doesn't that make sense? let me explain again, I also disliked Helen when she went in but over the weeks I changed my mind,I presume that happened for other people too,therefore by the time the end came,she had enough fans to make her win,obviously not everyone 'hated' her only the ones who were pissed off that she took the crown from Ashleigh and they are still bitter about it.

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And the original point was that had the final pass not been in play, she would have left early (because these fans who grabbed her the win weren't fans of hers originally)

Because people hated Helen right when she called Jale a slug and said other stuff to housemates(way before the final). Her hate has nothing to do with Ashleigh at all. That would mean Helen fans turning on her at the final when I've have only seen Helen fans turn on her this series because of how vile she is. BB15 was a mess so it's nothing to care about anyway.It doesn't help the fact BB likes to manipulate things too and shove housemates down viewers throats. It's happening again with this series with Marc. She also had enough haters from the start to get her evicted. She would have got evicted week 2/3 if she didn't have that final pass.The Ashleigh and Helen was a storyline during Girl power week and Helen was already disliked.

I didn't even watch BB15 so i'm not jealous she took the crown from anyone, I just think Helen is a nasty bully. :joker:

Count yourself lucky.

Not to mention a decent human.

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She has mental issues. My only saving grace for her.

Well it cant be proved one way or another that she would have been evicted and it never will be,so we can go on about that one forever.people need to stop making this all about Helen,although I do admit she has the forum ticking.

well calling Jale a slug will pretty much seal your eviction.

:joker::joker::joker: Did you watch her series?

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It's all about Helen. She's the one who said that Brian looked like a murderer and a rapist. She's the one who prompted 1,100 Ofcom complaints from yesterday's show alone. She's the one who this thread is about.

We don't know,some people probably didn't like Jale,we will never know,so poitless debate.

Fair point.

Like Helen at Steven and Kimberly's wedding.

Nikki's ignorance and yes, sometimes nasty comments towards certain people cannot be compared to the sheer bile Helen spouts and the way she treats people, she makes people uncomfortable ffs

And he called her names but we'll skip that bit shall we? people who complained about that are wasting their time,she is gone tomorrow ,I know this thread is about her as are most of the others.:shrug:

Judging by the attention the show's received because of Helen, the producers' reluctance to tell us when the legends are leaving and the fact that Aisleyne went in only yesterday, I highly doubt she'll be leaving tomorrow. Unless they come to their senses and eject her.

Of course :pat:

...when you've got nothing else to say, resort to patronising people using :pat:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA insults about people's personal appearances are SO FUNNY OMFG SCREAMING HAHAHAHAHa xxx

Whoever said the basic bitch comment tops it is factually correct. As was Nikki's Beyonce comment.

And why oh why are people still continuing to use winning as a barometer of who is and who isn't a good housemate? While ever the public is in charge, it will never be an effective unit of measurement. They have crowned people like Sam ****ing Evans a winner for **** sake. They know nothing.

then why bring up helen is only hated because of ashleigh not winning?

Is that all you can say :pat:

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