Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8031921)

Five years sounds about right for the Tory thing. I only wear suits for work, so probably 2.5 years would have been enough for that.

I think you're in your late 20s... but I think I read that somewhere.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8031925)

30 two months ago. ANCIENT.

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8031975)

i'm 33. jan. 26 1982 aquarius.

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 8031701)

I don't understand why people care so much about this. Humans are ****ing weird.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8031839)

I think the loss of a human life is worse

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 8032052)

I felt more about the killing of Cecil.

The migrant doesn't even have a name. And they are constantly referred to as the migrants, as if they're not exactly human.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8032082)

Yes Illegal Migrant

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8031884)

I thought by the time I got to this age be wise. But no... here I am. On TiBB.

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8033468)

..I would feel sadness for both, for different reasons...



..I think that a basic human ability is to feel compassion/empathy in something that is relatable within themselves...if a human or an animal is dead, then they are dead and they feel nothingness so the empathy largely comes from relating to emotions that will be with family/friends etc and relating to that and how we personally think we would feel/the devastation etc...so even if it was a 'bad' person like a serial killer etc, I may not feel any sense of loss as such for them but I still would feel empathy for their families who saw the best in them, whose worlds were shattered not only by their loved ones death but by the things they did in life as well ...



..with the lion, obviously it's a feeling of sadness that there are people who would strive (for pleasure/self gratification..)...to assist the reduction in species that should be protected/he was being protected but that didn't make a difference alas...but as 'bad' as humans can be, it's also humans who are good and trying to protect against these thing happening as much as they can....

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 8031701)

I don't understand why people care so much about this. Humans are ****ing weird.

Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8033599)

Because some people value animal life. I fail to see how that's "****ing weird".

Hold a differing viewpoint by all means, but instantly resorting to insulting the believers of an opposite view is just juvenile and extremely ignorant.

Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8033599)

Because some people value animal life. I fail to see how that's "****ing weird".

Hold a differing viewpoint by all means, but instantly resorting to insulting the believers of an opposite view is just juvenile and extremely ignorant.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8033633)

Most people are obviously going to go with the lion, our media is nothing if not cruel to the plight of migrants and it doesn't surprise me to see that the person who died in Calais has yet to be named or even humanised in the media. It's hard to get upset about a tragedy when the victim is presented as nothing more than a statistic.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8033661)

I don't think it has to be an either/or situation. It's hard to quantify outrage. Of course I feel a certain amount of sympathy for the migrant, although he did know what he was doing carried a risk and he went for it anyway. Had he stopped at the first safe country to give him refuge things might have worked out differently for him, he made a choice. But that doesn't mean I don't care that he died. The lion on the other hand was baited, terribly injured weith a crossbow bolt, tracked for forty hours and then killed with a gun... for fun.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8033661)

I don't think it has to be an either/or situation. It's hard to quantify outrage. Of course I feel a certain amount of sympathy for the migrant, although he did know what he was doing carried a risk and he went for it anyway. Had he stopped at the first safe country to give him refuge things might have worked out differently for him, he made a choice. But that doesn't mean I don't care that he died. The lion on the other hand was baited, terribly injured weith a crossbow bolt, tracked for forty hours and then killed with a gun... for fun.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8033719)

I'm not saying either is the right or wrong choice. I'm just pointing out that it's not much of a choice to make with what we know due to bias in the media.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8033869)

To be fair, this dentist guy shouldn't even get bragging rights, he clearly wanted to hunt a lion with a crossbow and failed miserably so had to resort to a gun. I wonder what he would have gone for next had he failed to shoot it? I recon landmines or a small tactical missile.