Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123 (Post 8243926)

TBH I love the moderators in here. On the whole they do a great job but I would love them even more if they revealed themselves whilst applying an infraction. You just get a message saying whatever you said this and that your now banned by no name. But alas we are not privy to that information yet.:shrug:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8244307)

oh, okay. but still there was at least a forum for discussion, and other mods could come to your defense. There was many times i got an infraction, and when i challenged them, they were reversed. But now there is no way to explain yourself and get infractions reversed.

And they absolutely used to post who was giving the infraction in the old days. The actual mod giving the infraction, it was in the PM when you got an infraction you could see who it was that actually issued the infraction.


It was a much more fair system.

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8244278)

No Kirk, every time an infraction is given out a thread specifically for that infraction (or warning) is automatically created in a part of the admin forum.

It's were the mods and admins discuss things.

We did used to have a private infraction appeals section where only the member in question and the mods could see the thread you made querying an infraction but it was ruined.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8244312)

Define ruined, it was apparent by the infraction discussion thread that different moderators had different approaches and reactions to infractions, hence the removal and the tibb staff message, it renders every infraction faceless.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8244310)

That used to be the case but we'd get a bunch of people who would be like '___ infracted me?! OMG SO BIASED' People just used it as an excuse to demonise the mod who infracted them rather than accept the blame and move on.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8244314)

People just used the appeals section to bitch and whine, it was meant to be used for when you have a legitimate issue with an infraction or a mod's actions but there was only a handful of times when it was used for that. People would just use it to abuse the mods.

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8244315)

but to be fair, some mods are biased, and when it's a mod that clearly doesn't like you, and it's the same mod over and over and over again...that is the only one issuing you infractions...

you know that some mods DO dislike certain members, and DO target them... and that's not fair.

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8244313)

The tibb staff message was happening even before the private appeals forum was opened and yes it does render infractions faceless, that's the point, for the reasons myself and Dezzy have posted above.

It was ruined by members using it solely to abuse mods, further break forum rules, spam and troll that area whilst they were banned.

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8244315)

but to be fair, some mods are biased, and when it's a mod that clearly doesn't like you, and it's the same mod over and over and over again...that is the only one issuing you infractions...

you know that some mods DO dislike certain members, and DO target them... and that's not fair.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8244319)

Do you think? Oh I don't agree I think it was great for discussing things with all the mods, it ensured a more objective overview of any given situation.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8244318)

Except we aren't, some people just can't accept that they are in the wrong and think that the rules do not apply to them. Everyone gets treated the same, the only people that accuse mods of being biased are the ones that expect special treatment.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8244319)

Do you think? Oh I don't agree I think it was great for discussing things with all the mods, it ensured a more objective overview of any given situation.

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8244321)

That's no doubt because you were only seeing your own private threads though, whereas we were seeing and dealing with every infracted members queries every day.

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8244324)

Alex I just double checked with James and he confirmed that the anonymous infraction system was brought in 1 month before you joined the forum, so you have never received an infraction from a named mod.

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8244322)

i don't think we expect special treatment, we want fair treatment. i think we are upset because it seems we are getting special treatment/punishment. There should be no special anything, treatment or punishment.

Some people are targeted by certain mods. That's a fact.

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8244322)

i don't think we expect special treatment, we want fair treatment. i think we are upset because it seems we are getting special treatment/punishment. There should be no special anything, treatment or punishment.

Some people are targeted by certain mods. That's a fact.

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8244327)

It isn't a fact though Alex :laugh:

Just for an example looking at only the first page of your infractions you have been infracted by 4 different moderators (out of 5 infractions)

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8244329)

which 4?

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8244329)

which 4?

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8244328)

Nobody gets special treatment, no one gets targeted, it's impossible for a mod to be biased, the other mods wouldn't stand for it. If you're getting a lot of infractions then you should try not breaking the rules. You get treated exactly the same as everyone else, Alex.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8244328)

Nobody gets special treatment, no one gets targeted, it's impossible for a mod to be biased, the other mods wouldn't stand for it. If you're getting a lot of infractions then you should try not breaking the rules. You get treated exactly the same as everyone else, Alex.

Originally Posted by Ashley. (Post 8244331)

We need a Tribunal tbh