Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8267791)

Some people don't agree with what Kirk posted. Fine. Doesn't take a whole bunch of you to let him know, does it? All getting bent out of shape because you don't agree... while in another part of the forum a fifteen year old has posted a thread "what type of porn do you prefer".

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8267784)

Clearly your turd reference struck a chord and reminded Lime of schooldays in the times of apartheid, I can see why.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8267738)

Hmmmmmmmm it's hardly a new concept, it's called racial profiling, and also, it's not like someone just came up with the idea of racial profiling out of nowhere: certain types of crimes are more likely to be carried out by certain demographics.

However, there are also VERY GOOD REASONS to avoid being tempted into using racial profiling. It's "shortcut logic" that can lead to devastating misconceptions and mistakes. In other words, there are well researched reasons that law enforcement agencies don't (or shouldn't) do it.

It also creates self-fulfilling prophecies. For example; in certain areas, young black men are far more likely than any other group to be carrying a blade. This lead to pretty widescale racial profiling for "random" stop and search practices by the police. Not only is this unfair, it also (for obvious reason) helps to create a pariah-culture amoungst that group, and ends up pushing more young people down the sort of route where they ARE more likely to be carrying a blade, reinforcing the stereotype, and seemingly justifying the profiling.

TL;DR - there's a very good reason, sometimes, not to share an assumption no matter how convinced of it you are - and even if it turns out to be an accurate assumption.



ALSO Kirk, I resent the implication in your post. Frankel is not a sex predator, that old fella's jizz is worth a fortune :nono:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8267797)

I can't speak for anyone else but for me, as an individual, I will comment if I disagree with a post a person makes in the debate section, I'm not linked to anyone else so I don't understand why you've lumped everyone who disagreed with Kirk together?

Originally Posted by lime (Post 8267794)

You might consider yourself as being non offensive .....but you are.It is clear from Aristas op that the offdener was either Arabic or mediteranin .Days later you want to claim that you and your mate had already decidced that this crime was carried out by a forgerins

Please excuse my english ...it's not my first language.....I'm one of those nasty forgerins you here about

Originally Posted by LiamBB (Post 8267801)

I haven't really got anything useful to add to this debate that hasn't already been said, but I just wanted to say this is a fantastic post TS. Especially the paragraph about self-fulfilling prophecies. As a white british male I can't imagine what it's like to walk down the street and feel like people/the police are looking at me with suspicion, but I imagine that it would probably affect me negatively in some way.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8267804)

Well, I opened this thread this morning and there are five or six people tearing Kirk a new one. I'm not sure how many more ways there are to say people don't agree and they think he's a racist. And everyone's assuming Kirk's a white Anglo-Saxon protestant. I hope everyone's right.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8267807)

Actually no one is assuming that Livia since he's said quite a few times that he's not

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8267791)

Some people don't agree with what Kirk posted. Fine. Doesn't take a whole bunch of you to let him know, does it? All getting bent out of shape because you don't agree... while in another part of the forum a fifteen year old has posted a thread "what type of porn do you prefer".

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8267798)

Who cares what you "can see"?

All this overreactionary opportunist axe-grinding is purely because I stated what I COULD SEE.

And I prefer the direct, real testimony of my own eyes than any second-hand professed testimony of yours.

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8267790)

There is a vast difference in my 'attacking' you, as you knowingly wrongly claim, and in my 'defending' myself against your attack, which is the true state of affairs.

Your specification of "the last month" as evidence that you have not "commented" on my posts is as disgenuine as your claim that you "normally avoid" my posts, because it was ME who told you that I was ignoring YOU about a month ago after you - once again - seized upon a minor disagreement which I had with young JoshBB and blew it up out of all proportion, milking it for all it was worth to satisfy your own agenda. THE TRUTH OF THIS IS THERE ON THE THREADS.

And I HAVE ignored you since.

And it is ironic that you write: "but in some cases I just can't let them pass." Because, you have forced me into a position where I cannot let your comments pass.

However, I suggest we leave it here, because I do not want to to be warned, infracted or banned and yet it IS impossible to defend myself against such 'personal' attack from the predictable 'usual suspects' WITHOUT getting personal in return.

I suggest we just continue to ignore each other.

Bye.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8267813)

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8267816)

I've not had bold Niamh for ages :eek:

Originally Posted by lime (Post 8267809)

Livia you know I am very fond of you.What Kirk posted was on a public disscusson forum where I am sure he knows his views will be talked about ..the same as mine or your own views.Trust me I am not getting out of shape over his opinions...I will go and look at this thread re porn

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8267820)

Things are getting serious now :hee:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8267822)

In serious debates?.... :hehe:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8267816)

I've not had bold Niamh for ages :eek:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8267835)

Niamh is always bold. Whether in typeface or in spirit.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8267838)

Come on that's quite enough smoke up there for one day....move it along :hee:

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8262830)

:laugh::laugh: You haven't just watched; 'I Spit On Your Grave 3' have you Liv?

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8267852)

Nah, it had to be "Hard Candy"

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8267894)

Yeah but nothing actually happens at the end of Hard Candy. She's just like "Trolololol don't be a paedo" and leaves.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8267838)

Come on that's quite enough smoke up there for one day....move it along :hee:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8267840)

Flattery will get you everywhere TS, carry on :hee: