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Crimson Dynamo 12-01-2016 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8414590)
Does anyone else find this seriously distasteful?

I don't know why I expected anything else, but I can honestly imagine the producers rubbing their hands together at the news this morning and thinking of the publicity the show will pick up off the back of it as people tune in to see how the ex wife copes :S

I said in the chat thread, it wouldn't surprise me if they offered her more money to stay.

They gave her the option not to show it but she said show it. It was her call not BBs

source: Lorraine ITV1HD This Morning


(She has been estranged from her son since he was 13 in 1984 and she divorced Bowie in 1980)

Josy 12-01-2016 08:00 AM

I don't want to sound horrible here, but honestly I can see Angie milking this, just the way she was sitting with John and David Gest in the second clip last night already made it pretty obvious to me.

I really hope she doesn't though, and I honestly do feel for her because no matter how much she declared she hated him they were still married, had a child together and spent a good few years of their lives together.

Crimson Dynamo 12-01-2016 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8415881)
I don't want to sound horrible here, but honestly I can see Angie milking this, just the way she was sitting with John and David Gest in the second clip last night already made it pretty obvious to me.

I really hope she doesn't though, and I honestly do feel for her because no matter how much she declared she hated him they were still married, had a child together and spent a good few years of their lives together.

She is still milking his surname 36 years after their divorce

kirklancaster 12-01-2016 08:20 AM

Jenny Juniper and Cherie - I totally agree with you both.

This may lower my popularity on here even more, and I am sorry, but - to me - Angie's reaction was totally fake and she was deliberately using this tragic and sad incident for her own personal gain.

I am sorry, but I can only speak the truth as I perceive it.

I shed a quiet tear for Bowie because he represents a huge part of my life when I was young, and - as with Elvis or The Beatles and others - I cannot ever hear his records without it evoking in me almost tangible memories of the happy times I enjoyed, the pretty girls I dated, and also some sad times.

I shed a tear for Bowies passing, but that tear was also for my long passed youth and I thank God for Bowies music so I can relive it in my memory.

Angie was married to Bowie and shared a son with him, and Bowie and his music must be a million times more meaningful to her because of that intimacy.

Yet, it did not appear that way to me judging by her reaction when the news was broken to her.

I KNOW that people react differently to tragic news, but her first reaction was very measured and she bordered on being totally dismissive:

"I haven’t seen him in so many years I can’t make a big drama about it, but I feel an era has ended, it’s so very sad,’ Angie said.

Then, she buried her head on her knees and seemingly wept uncontrollably but when she raised her head I saw no tears.

This grief was repeated in front of David Gest, John Partridge AND the camera but I could not help sensing that this was 'theatrics' rather than the genuine and heartfelt sorrow and grief which even I felt.

If I am wrong, then I unreservedly apologise, but her illogical and contrary reaction, and the fact that she elected to remain in the house after such shocking and saddening news, persuades me, that to Angie, this was nothing more than 'deus et machina' a totally unexpected incident which may salvage her personal desire to remain in the house longer if not even win the show, and therefore restore her to the fame which she only ever enjoyed because of Bowie, and which only ever really endured whilever she was with him.

kirklancaster 12-01-2016 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8415881)
I don't want to sound horrible here, but honestly I can see Angie milking this, just the way she was sitting with John and David Gest in the second clip last night already made it pretty obvious to me.

I really hope she doesn't though, and I honestly do feel for her because no matter how much she declared she hated him they were still married, had a child together and spent a good few years of their lives together.

I agree Josy, and my post mainly echoes yours, though you posted whilst I was typing.

bots 12-01-2016 08:40 AM

For me it doesn't matter if Angie's reaction was true or false. History dictates by her actions and words what her position was. Also, by the words and actions of David before he died and her son. So, how she reacted to the news is pretty meaningless.

For me, the producers are milking the death in an unsavoury way. They didn't need to show that trailer, but they did. They don't need to focus on an event that occurred outside the house, but they will. All to try and gain a few more viewers who are only watching out of some morbid fascination.

The producers have shown repeatedly that they have no moral compass. They are the TV equivalent of the gutter press. Its no longer a show I want to watch

jaxie 12-01-2016 08:59 AM

They didn't tell her the news in the diary room
 
Most people seem to have the impression that what was shown was Angie being told of his death when they stated this was done privately.

Come on folks they aren't going to call the woman into the diary room and tell her. I don't even know if they need special permission to show diary room footage, that they have in this instance leaves some ethics to be desired. It seems to me that after she was told she must have gone to the diary room and bb probably asked her if she was doing all right. Then when she got upset they probably called in a couple of housemates she is comfortable with to give her a bit of moral support.

Her reaction seemed pretty genuine to me when she was talking to BB, well I haven't seen him for years and then the tears, sometimes things hit you like that, but you know what, it's actually kind of tacky for us to be analising her feelings. She was married to the man for ten years and she literally made him a star. She was the one with the connections. Then he dumped her. They had all kinds of history and baggage that none of us know about, angry hurt people lash out, so lets her cut her a little slack.

Crimson Dynamo 12-01-2016 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8415896)
For me it doesn't matter if Angie's reaction was true or false. History dictates by her actions and words what her position was. Also, by the words and actions of David before he died and her son. So, how she reacted to the news is pretty meaningless.

For me, the producers are milking the death in an unsavoury way. They didn't need to show that trailer, but they did. They don't need to focus on an event that occurred outside the house, but they will. All to try and gain a few more viewers who are only watching out of some morbid fascination.

The producers have shown repeatedly that they have no moral compass. They are the TV equivalent of the gutter press. Its no longer a show I want to watch

she agreed for it to be shown

BB would not have shown it IF SHE HAD SAID NO



i hope this is clear

jaxie 12-01-2016 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8415927)
she agreed for it to be shown

BB would not have shown it IF SHE HAD SAID NO



i hope this is clear

Not really since I don't know if they would have to ask permission to show diary room footage. Surely permission for that is taken care of when they go in.

smudgie 12-01-2016 09:36 AM

She won't have been told about it in the DR, her representatives will have been in one of the task rooms to have a private chat with her.
No doubt she will also have been advised as to if she should stay in the show or not, or even if she wants to stay in.
Once she had made her decision the chat in the DR will have taken place, no doubt with her permission.
No matter how it was done, I still find it distasteful.

Crimson Dynamo 12-01-2016 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 8415932)
Not really since I don't know if they would have to ask permission to show diary room footage. Surely permission for that is taken care of when they go in.

It was stated on tv this morning that she granted permission for that to be shown

jennyjuniper 12-01-2016 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8415890)
I agree Josy, and my post mainly echoes yours, though you posted whilst I was typing.

Hi Kirk, I agree with you about the memories. David was never one of my all time faves, although some of his songs stir wonderful memories. I liked him better as an actor. Labyrinth was great and that prisoner of war film was really good too. (What was it called? You are my go to guy when I needed my memory jogging!!):wavey:

chuff me dizzy 12-01-2016 09:36 AM

Yes ,very distasteful

chuff me dizzy 12-01-2016 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8415881)
I don't want to sound horrible here, but honestly I can see Angie milking this, just the way she was sitting with John and David Gest in the second clip last night already made it pretty obvious to me.

I really hope she doesn't though, and I honestly do feel for her because no matter how much she declared she hated him they were still married, had a child together and spent a good few years of their lives together.

I bet she has not got a single nomination this week ,and lets face it If David had not died she and Nancy would both be up

bots 12-01-2016 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8415927)
she agreed for it to be shown

BB would not have shown it IF SHE HAD SAID NO



i hope this is clear

But that is irrelevant. Its still contrived gutter television.

Livia 12-01-2016 10:01 AM

Bowie's death is the most interesting thing to happen to Angie Bowie for decades and she's going to milk it for all it's worth. Meanwhile. Big Brother should be hanging their heads in shame at this appalling lack of taste and decorum.

Ashley. 12-01-2016 10:02 AM

Disgusting.

Crimson Dynamo 12-01-2016 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8415951)
But that is irrelevant. Its still contrived gutter television.

welcome to Channel 5 and reality TV

kirklancaster 12-01-2016 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jennyjuniper (Post 8415943)
Hi Kirk, I agree with you about the memories. David was never one of my all time faves, although some of his songs stir wonderful memories. I liked him better as an actor. Labyrinth was great and that prisoner of war film was really good too. (What was it called? You are my go to guy when I needed my memory jogging!!):wavey:

Hi Jenny,

It was the excellent 'Merry Christmas Mr lawrence' I think Jen.

Vicky. 12-01-2016 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 8415881)
I don't want to sound horrible here, but honestly I can see Angie milking this, just the way she was sitting with John and David Gest in the second clip last night already made it pretty obvious to me.

I really hope she doesn't though, and I honestly do feel for her because no matter how much she declared she hated him they were still married, had a child together and spent a good few years of their lives together.

I said this yesterday..I hope she doesn't but she has been clinging onto his name for the past however many years and tbf she is only in there because of him :S

wendywillow 12-01-2016 11:10 AM

using the bowie stuff in the promo was tacky, but theyre going to show the aftermath on the show obviously and angie signed off on it so I don't have a problem with that

chuff me dizzy 12-01-2016 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8416085)
I said this yesterday..I hope she doesn't but she has been clinging onto his name for the past however many years and tbf she is only in there because of him :S

True ,and Im sorry but the crying into her hands looked mighty fake to me

Crimson Dynamo 12-01-2016 11:11 AM

cant wait for all the fawning and croc tears tonight...

Slevin 12-01-2016 07:33 PM

when she said "the stardust is gone" made me cringe with something being fake. it was like she was acting with that line.

Crimson Dynamo 12-01-2016 07:35 PM

lets hope amazon and ebay and his label dont cash in on his death...

:umm2:


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