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All I would say to the people who dislike her is just to take a step back and realise that it's all an act, and one that she's openly admitted in the house.

Once you realise she is literally just doing what she is doing to 'make good TV' (and rightly so, it's about time celebrities learnt they need to earn their fee), you can then see just how fake every incident she instigates is, which is both bloody brilliant that she's doing it in the first place, and how much it still pisses off the rest of the housemates when they know full well what she's doing cause she's told them :laugh:

Like she said, GC/Gem are two different people. She is playing a character, a heightened version of herself for the purposes of an entertainment programme, as she should, and a bloody good job she's doing too :clap1:

The fact it's an act makes it less interesting/entertaining imo. If I wanted to see someone playing up to a character I'd watch a soap.

I think the house would lose a lot of entertainment if Gemma went, She's one of the most talked about which is giving them what she wants really. But she makes good TV :flutter: it's all an act and she's actually earning her fee.. they put her there for entertainment and that's what she is doing.

But I'm sure I recall you liked Speidi for the exact reasons I said, they were playing a character :suspect:

If your character is going to bring more to the show than your real personality is, then please for the love of God earn your fee and act up. I don't care how ~real~ people are so long as what they're doing keeps the series afloat

I thought the pregnancy bit was so lame. I knew a young woman who used to lie about being pregnant and then falling downstairs and losing the baby. She was a very skilled drama queen and knew exactly how to stir and work people to get the reaction she wanted. Gemma may not be up there on that level of crazy, but she can manipulate and pushes buttons at just the right times to maximize her air time. She has a charm she can turn on and off. When people talk to her she ultimately uses what they tell her against them to get in the middle of their business (for max air time...)

Sadly, she will likely gain popularity from being on show. She is taking notes from Tiffany and has been working her as well most of the show. Tiffany may have been famous for being some badass in the past but she's softened up and become much more vulnerable and therefore available. Still, they both know this business of creating drama for ratings really well. The times where she has her "moments" about not being loved by someone very rich, yeah, they are probably her honest truth but I get the feeling she understands they need a narrative for your "character" so she just may just be using that to get more air time... say what you will, she may not be doing squat on the tasks, but she is earning her paycheck.

It's ironic Tiffany has been more real and even a little down to earth compared to Gemma.

I did like Speidi but at that point at least it was something new, now every series they put housemates in there just to perform a role. Seeing someone throw a fake tantrum because they know the camera is on them isn't entertaining to me. The whole point of BB is to see how people show their real raw emotions in that environment and that's what made the show so good.

There are still people who show their emotions though and to be honest if you're able to act up in that sort of environment then more power to you? It can actually be quite interesting to see it break people down (like it did with Spencer eventually) because it's really not easy.

I wouldn't say it's the tantrums themselves I find entertaining (although they can be funny), but as with a lot of housemates like this it's the way that the other housemates react to them that makes them worth it. In this case they all seem to be lapping it up and getting pissed off with her throwing tasks so they fail which would mean they starve, that's only a good thing in the long run. As housemates they should just realise they're giving her what she wants.

It was the same thing with Marc in BB16 really, a lot of the stuff he didn't wasn't objectively entertaining, but it was how it impacted on the others that made it so

I see what you're saying about the impact they cause on the house and don't get me wrong it can still be funny and entertaining however I'd still prefer 100% real drama as that's what BB is about. With these people playing characters to stage dramas it's going away from it's original roots and becoming more like a TOWIE type show.

I guess I don't disagree all that much with that :think: guess that's just C5 for you, think we just have to put up or shut up these days with the way the show is changing really cause history has shown us they really don't care what the fans think

TOWIE is the biggest show on earth and she is responsible to making that the best thing ever there for what ever she does or touches will be a success.

I hope her successful business don't crash now.

You have hit the nail on the head. Essex is all about the "flash" . Not many of the cast of Towie are intelligent in the respect of basic knowledge of life, but because they wear "Dolce and Gabbana" they think they are better than other people. Gemma may have a shop but she is not often in it, and if she treats people who DO ALL HER WORK in the way she is seen to treat people in CBB then she no doubt has a huge staff turnover. Cant believe that she wont participate in tasks for the rest of the house, but will for immunity, strange she got the golden mask, it could be fixed, but that will always be denied. Megan did not deserve to go, Gemma the Hutt did!

The shops are not doing too well, or so I've heard. Probably because Collins can't see things through. She seems incapable of tghe effort needed to be successful at anything.
As for Towie being the biggest show on earth???????????????:conf: where did you hear that?:laugh:

Mystifies me, TOWIE does have a lot of supporters but the most maddening thing is what she is getting away with as to BB themselves,refusing to do tasks, not getting up when everyone else has to.
Sickening and grossly unfair too.
If she will not do tasks then she should not have been part of the one to win immunity either as a punishment.

She is being treated by BB like the Lady of the Manor,ridiculous.

Her Career is coming to the end so as soon as Towie is axed she will never be on TV again

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That is the way I see her too. IMO, she's pantomime, just like Speidi and Perez were (and they were my fave HM's in their seasons) so I can't take her any more seriously as a 'character' than I did with them at the time. She isn't my fave this year, she's no. 3 right now but I'm enjoying her antics and she is bringing entertainment in spades, and as you say, earning her wage packet. She makes no bones about what she is doing and the character she is portraying, which takes some guts. The word 'bully' is thrown about to describe her - now the likes of Helen Wood and Katie Hopkins were bullies - but I don't see that in Gemma, even if she describes herself as intimidating which is just another part of her 'act'. (People who are really out to intimidate don't give you the heads up and probably don't even see themselves that way in the first place).
Her friends say she can be a 'monster' at times, but they say it with laughs and with affection, they say she has a heart of gold, that she's kind and loyal.

She's not as bad in the house as is being made out by some, apart from the laziness, which she's playing up for all it's worth - and I'm not sure she's as lazy as she lets on or she wouldn't have made a career on TV or got as far as even opening several businesses. She never screams or yells at anyone, she takes criticism on the chin, she doesn't have to have the last word, she doesn't take the hump with people (or not for long) she's honest and she can laugh at herself.
I think if she was slim and pretty she would be seen differently. (Imagine Gemma having the Megan rant, as bad a it was how much worse would it have appeared?) It's her bulk, loin - like persona and natural directness that makes her seem 'scary' - and I think she knows this herself and plays on it a bit too, just like the laziness, after all, it pays the bills, but maybe even as a form of self defence and insecurity about her appearance. The comments on social media fat shaming her must cut to the bone - just reading the insults on here makes me cringe and be more sympathetic towards her. I never realized the hell overweight people in the public eye must go through. Then they eat more to comfort themselves and get into a vicious circle.

That's my perspective on her so maybe others feel some of the same and that's why they think she's an okay person.
Sorry about the novel. :hehe:

She's an embarrassment to humanity. A spoilt, selfish, vindictive, arrogant, greedy fat bitch.

Agree with this.

BB isn't a morality contest, it's an entertainment programme and people are voting to keep in the entertainment

thats not really true. Contestants are always and have always been judged on their actions. I bet you have done the same yourself

She's messy and that makes her fun to watch since the rest of the house takes her seriously when they shouldn't.

Before she came on CBB I really liked her - now I really do not. I suppose thats the point of BB