Woh woh woh... I never said I agree with LT about anything :smug:

Nothing wrong with a good circlejerk Livia.

...hence Church. Where one might go to see someone literally preaching to the flock. Who would clap. And nod. No?

You tell me... I'm not a Christian, I am not in the Christian flock.

Anyway, like I said, enjoy. I'll look in next time LT starts another anti-religion thread and we can all say the same things over again.

well i dont think i will start a pro religion thread anytime soon

same way you wont start a pro socialism one

:idc:

People don't clap in church. :suspect:

As is the human race in all aspects about anything and everything.

So how is "banning" all religion at all going to change that? Humans will find other reasons to fight. As they have and still do.

Oh yes they do... depending on the denomination of course...but every Christian denominational type of church I have been to has clapping... to music, to god, for each others achievements in god...

Each other's achievements? Everyone has a turn to list their achievements? :amazed:

But, yeah, the roman catholic churches I've been to don't have such back slapping. :hmph:

not ban just eradicate from schools and politics apart from teaching about as part of say history or modern studies. No preferential treatment in society.

We need to thoroughly reverse the prevailing notion that religious "faith" is intrinsically deserving of respect.

Well i'm not religious.I don't believe the concepts involved.
However i find the history of religions absolutely fascinating and how if you research different religions you can see how they evolved and ideas and even characters from one religion end up popping up later on in other religions.Moses for instance may actually have been a real guy and possibly the step brother of Thutmoses iii who was a real pharoah.Now i personally don't believe he parted the Red Sea or recieved the commandments from god but even the fact that he could've been a real person over 3000 years ago is fascinating imo.I believe the Exodus probably was a real thing and i believe Jesus could very well have been a real preacher who was involved in creating an offshoot of Judaism that became very popular(Christianity).
I don't think religion was created originally as a way to control the masses.I think it was inevitable due to early man/woman not understanding the wonders around them.The control factor came about later on.Long after ritual burial and the worshipping of gods.People want to understand what we see around us.Invisible gods was possibly the only explanation that human brains could come up with imo.
I think religion is very much historically relevant.

Preferential treatment? :joker:

Religious people get nothing but mocked in this country.

I think that's the crux of it... if we were to find a way to ban extremism in religion... which I don't think we can do... or certain parts of a religion..or religion itself, then we will make the people who are extremists or even the modernists into martyrs for their faith, making them more valid unfortunately, and giving them a greater cause to rally behind.

they get prime time slots on the radio 2 breakfast show (audience 9 million) and radio 4 (slightly less but similar)

what other organisation do you know who gets this free advertising?

(this being one example)

*Claps and nods*

oh and have a look at the national secular society's strapline,...


http://www.secularism.org.uk/

Pentecostals clap.

You realise that you've now given me the idea that, in Jewish church, everyone goes along and disagrees with what the Jew preacher has to say, shakes their head and... maybe some jeering and booing?

If that is the case then it sounds wonderful TBH.

Only on obese people.

This is very true