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Yaki da 15-06-2016 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 8725800)
That's a yes then


You don't seem to be capable of communicating.

MB. 15-06-2016 05:53 PM

Happy birthday

Babayaro. 15-06-2016 05:53 PM

MB stop with the sarcasm!!

Marsh. 15-06-2016 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8725815)
This is the problem. Some of you are comparing the experience of watching a series unfold as it does with watching back an old series on youtube. Watching a series back will never be as much fun as watching a series as it happens regardless of how good that series seemed at the time. The whole magic of BB is being able to discuss it as it happens with friends and with others on forums.

That's the most extraordinary thing about the lack of live coverage to me. In the age of 24/7 social media sites like twitter, the live feed actually lended itself perfectly to that. Imagine what Fight Night from BB5 would have been like with twitter there. The Digital Spy forums crashed that night.

:clap1:

:worship:

Greg! 15-06-2016 05:54 PM

Sorry but Hughie, Georgina and Natalie > BB1

Yaki da 15-06-2016 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by *mazedsalv** (Post 8725738)
But that wouldn't work. And it's not just BB, but other shows too. BB is old, it's 17 years old. They've done everything. Of course it was fresher back then. EVERY series in the world was.It would not survive with a BB1/2 format, it certainly could with a BB3 onwards one though. Even from BB3, producers tried to stir (see first eviction).

It could survive quite fine, probably much better, with big characters, normal nominations/evictions, inventive tasks, 24/7 coverage and a good website. All of which it used to have. The fact that some of these things don't exist in 2016 which they did back in 2006, represents a clear decline.

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It was proven to us last year. The first 2 weeks was the least manipulated series in a long time
Utter nonsense. There was manipulation on the very first night when Showbiz was evicted, Nick was told he had to nominate face to face every week and Jack was given 3 free passes.

Furthermore is was a terrible lineup full of limp wristed men, at least 2 of whom were virgins, and older girls who acted like their big sisters.

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There is no way people would watch 10 weeks of people talking to chickens (even if it was for a bit). After 1 day people would say "OMG it's so dull and switch off". It's just not possible to go back to basics. People nowadays want BAM BAM. People don't have patience to see something slowly blossom (not just BB fans but all shows!)
Basics are what I listed... Fewer housemates with strong individual personalities (Not saying every early series had this but some did), normal nominations/evictions, less meddling, less elaborate twists which never work, a good website with a 24/7 feed that keeps us updated throughout the day which people can talk about on social media sites that never even existed in the early days of BB.

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We've been through the ringer and back, that it'd just not be feasible to return back to that.
You don't nderstand what it is people are asking for the show to return to.

sampvt 15-06-2016 05:58 PM

Ive watched every moment of BB and CBB and even Bots, (before it was taken over by gay central Rylan) and I am a mad fan of the show. Sadly this series has little or no resemblance to BB, its a scaled down CBB with deviants and weirdo that cant provide entertainment without showing body parts or using copious amounts of profanity.

MB. 15-06-2016 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8725854)
Furthermore is was a terrible lineup full of limp wristed men

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 8725859)
Ive watched every moment of BB and CBB and even Bots, (before it was taken over by gay central Rylan)

Ho ho homophobia!

hot2go 15-06-2016 06:01 PM

He's talking crap....BB is still good ...and if we hadn't had the others we wouldn't now have Huey, Natalie, Ryan and Charlie....they're the bonus balls

Yaki da 15-06-2016 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 8725867)
Ho ho homophobia!

Saying men are limp wristed has nothing to do with their sexuality. It is to do with their personalities. The men that year were mostly wimps. Wimps who were overshadowed by the much stronger girls. Who were themselves boring.

It is impossible to debate with a person like you.

Crimson Dynamo 15-06-2016 06:08 PM

this dick that wrote that article cannot see that if BB ran like BB1-6 now people would hate it and it would never get past BB1`

we can look back and love iot but the reality is that life has moved on apace and out viewing habits have massively changed


Its such a lazy article when he could have written something insightful

wanker

Rob! 15-06-2016 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8725887)
Saying men are limp wristed has nothing to do with their sexuality. It is to do with their personalities. The men that year were mostly wimps. Wimps who were overshadowed by the much stronger girls. Who were themselves boring.

It is impossible to debate with a person like you.

Even though the phrase limp wristed is associated with gay men but ok

Yaki da 15-06-2016 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8725927)
this dick that wrote that article cannot see that if BB ran like BB1-6 now people would hate it and it would never get past BB1

Nonsense. BB3, BB5 and BB6 and BB7 would do brilliantly today because the housemates were good and the format was easy to understand (apart from one or two twists) and it didn't insult the intelligence of the viewer to anything like the same degree it does today.`

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we can look back and love iot but the reality is that life has moved on apace and out viewing habits have massively changed
And Big Brother has changed in completely the wrong ways, hence the reason it loses its audience year after year. It could have built on the format it had and instead it destroyed it and turned the show into something fewer and fewer people are watching. With good reason.


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Its such a lazy article when he could have written something insightful

wanker
You didn't do any better.

MB. 15-06-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8725887)
Saying men are limp wristed has nothing to do with their sexuality. It is to do with their personalities

Let's just end this entire forum here shall we

Marsh. 15-06-2016 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8725927)
this dick that wrote that article cannot see that if BB ran like BB1-6 now people would hate it and it would never get past BB1`

we can look back and love iot but the reality is that life has moved on apace and out viewing habits have massively changed


Its such a lazy article when he could have written something insightful

wanker

BB1-6 wasn't the same though.

BB1-2
BB3
BB4
BB5-7
BB9-11
BB12-13
BB14-17

are the different "styles" of the show IMO.

They could definitely get away with a style of show like BB3, 5-7. They just need a great core cast.

Yaki da 15-06-2016 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8725943)
Even though the phrase limp wristed is associated with gay men but ok

It's associated with men who do not behave in a strong, masculine manner. Which can be a heterosexual man as readily as it can be a homosexual. Nick from last year is a perfect example of it.

As I said, it is impossible to debate with people like this.

Yaki da 15-06-2016 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 8725957)
Let's just end this entire forum here shall we

How about you end your contributions to this thread here, whilst the rest of us carry on...

MB. 15-06-2016 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8725965)
BB1-6 wasn't the same though.

BB1-2
BB3
BB4
BB5-7
BB9-11
BB12-13
BB14-17

are the different "styles" of the show IMO.

They could definitely get away with a style of show like BB3, 5-7. They just need a great core cast.

I know BB8 wasn't great per se but it doesn't deserve to be wiped from history completely

Actually, on second thoughts, go ahead

*mazedsalv** 15-06-2016 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8725854)
It could survive quite fine, probably much better, with big characters, normal nominations/evictions, inventive tasks, 24/7 coverage and a good website. All of which it used to have. The fact that some of these things don't exist in 2016 which they did back in 2006, represents a clear decline.



Utter nonsense. There was manipulation on the very first night when Showbiz was evicted, Nick was told he had to nominate face to face every week and Jack was given 3 free passes.

Furthermore is was a terrible lineup full of limp wristed men, at least 2 of whom were virgins, and older girls who acted like their big sisters.



Basics are what I listed... Fewer housemates with strong individual personalities (Not saying every early series had this but some did), normal nominations/evictions, less meddling, less elaborate twists which never work, a good website with a 24/7 feed that keeps us updated throughout the day which people can talk about on social media sites that never even existed in the early days of BB.



You don't nderstand what it is people are asking for the show to return to.

I want 24/7 feed. I'm an avid watcher.

But bi matter what you say, BB would not survive with a completely back to basics approach. How would it? The generation had been dumbed down. The ratings will fall further. There are almost no older fans left just young ones who don't remember BB being what it was.

All I'm asking for is minimal twists and 24/7 coverage. That's my basics

Will. 15-06-2016 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 8725867)
Ho ho

Merry Christmas.

MB. 15-06-2016 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8725974)
How about you end your contributions to this thread here, whilst the rest of us carry on...

If your contributions are calling other people's ideas terrible and being ignorantly low key homophobic then I'll continue as I am, ta :oh:

Marsh. 15-06-2016 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 8725977)
I know BB8 wasn't great per se but it doesn't deserve to be wiped from history completely

Actually, on second thoughts, go ahead

:clap1:

Babayaro. 15-06-2016 06:21 PM

What are the bets on Yaki da writing that article

Rob! 15-06-2016 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8725967)
It's associated with men who do not behave in a strong, masculine manner. Which can be a heterosexual man as readily as it can be a homosexual. Nick from last year is a perfect example of it.

As I said, it is impossible to debate with people like this.

Erm. I'm a gay man and I'm fully aware of what it means.

Maru 15-06-2016 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 8725859)
Ive watched every moment of BB and CBB and even Bots, (before it was taken over by gay central Rylan) and I am a mad fan of the show. Sadly this series has little or no resemblance to BB, its a scaled down CBB with deviants and weirdo that cant provide entertainment without showing body parts or using copious amounts of profanity.

Pretty much.


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