Not my fault your fave messed up tonight honey :kiss:

I still like her, but I feel like she's peaked already

"Attacking her" :facepalm:

Her own words were pretty damning all by themselves actually, I don't need to spin them into anything. But you seem hellbent on blaming everybody in the world but Georgina for any annoyance she causes so I don't think there's any constructive conversation to be had between us on the matter.

Oh and taking shots at other FMs just because they're not big fans of her is ridiculously immature

I see that bottle behind your back.

I don't understand this at all.

Yaki Da is saying that people that don't like Georgina is because she's posh I think.

Am I right Yaki Da?

basically, you cannot point out if someone thinks they are above someone else, because doing so makes you a snob yourself.

Bull...but meh

The argument of a child. :laugh:

Don't you worry, don't you worry child, cuz Heaven's gotta plan for you.

Coming from someone who can't comprehend people not liking someone they do and resorting to taking swipes at them for it rather than trying to counter the points with a decent defence? :joker:

I think Jackson has put such an emphasis on this it's inevitable. Some people see Georgina as this upper middle class person who rides horses and is somewhat aloof, and the popular culture today (which has an egalitarian message) teaches people to dislike such people unless they are apologetic about it and sentimental in character. Those who think like this probably will look for reasons to dislike her and they'll find them in silly things like her not fawning over how cute Jackson's son is having only just found out about him, when it seems a perfectly legitimate reaction (as well as an honest one) to be shocked and wonder why this guy that has such a keen interest in her was trying to keep it a secret, and what the story is with the mother.

If I were Georgina I would also wonder why Jackson only gets to see his son once every two weeks.

I can comprehend it fine and well. But some of the reasoning behind it and the criticisms are utter bunk.

Jackson only gets to see his son every two weeks because that's unfortunately how seperations work, as the Mum tends to get more contact

Surely these decisions can be made independently with the ex. To only be seeing your son once every two weeks suggests to me that there are some problems here.

Not able to empathise with him .... The pics of him with his son are so great ... He thinks she's amazing cause she's got a horse .., I think he's more amazing cause he idolises his son.

She came across as a snob tonight ... she's not gonna stay in touch with him at all

Well yeah they can, it all depends on what sort of relationship you have with your ex or if you are on speaking terms or not. But I wouldn't say there are problems (there might be, who knows) as every 2 weeks seems to be the norm for a child to see their Dad or in some instances their mum

Well, I can only speak from my own experience and my Mother made sure I saw my Father two times a week, on a school night and on the weekends. Only seeing your son once every two weeks seems too little to me, but of course every situation is different and nobody should make strong judgements on it with so little knowledge. But if I were in Georgina's position I would be wondering all these things and I see nothing wrong with that. The fact is Jackson was coming on strong with her and who knows how far he would have tried to take it without ever telling her he has a son, which it seems to me he has a duty to inform her of when pursuing her in the manner he has. Georgina was quite right to make an issue of some of these things (such as him hiding his photos) and yet is being judged harshly imo for essentially being a reasonable adult who understood immediately how the revelation that he has a son will complicate things further, rather than a sentimental fool who gushes over the cuteness of his son.

'Duty to inform her' ??? For goodness sake they have only known each other a few days, why would he need to rush into telling her about his son? They haven't even been an item (if you can call it that) for more than 24 hours. You'd think they were dating for weeks the way you're going on.

It's one of the first things you ought to mention to someone you're trying it on with.

You don't mention you have a son when you're an item. You mention it when you're first getting to know each other. But instead Jackson was pursuing her and purposely hiding his photos of his son to keep it from her.


You have some very strange ideas about when a person pursuing another person should let them know they have a son.

Because it would be utterly phoney in the situation. She was instead honest with her reaction and quite rightly asked what the status with the mother is. Which is what a grown up would do. But in our sentimental times being a grown up makes you cold whilst displays of phoney emotion seems to make you a nice person.

Why would it be relevant that he has a son in the slightest unless they were going to embark on a relationship? He didn't even get with her until a day ago in any way, he just fancied her, that is all. He is under no obligation to tell her all of his business until he knows his feelings are reciprocated, but he was forced into it by her insistence on seeing his photos.
It isn't phoney, it's polite and warm to say to a parent that their child is cute, or make some kind of positive comment. THAT'S what mature grown ups do when someone proudly shows you a picture of their child. You seem to think it's weak to be polite and warm and that Georgina should only care about what SHE wanted to know.

That's exactly what he's trying to do with her.


He's the one that's been acting like he's head over heels and she is rightly suspicious of this. Then he reveals he has a son, and some of you are acting like she's this terrible person for asking about the status of his relationship with the mother rather than gushing over how cute the son is when she's clearly been taken aback by the revelation.


We just disagree on what his obligations are then. He ought to make sure she doesn't develop feelings for him without knowing all the things that could complicate matters down the line, especially when there's already compatibility issues.


He didn't proudly show it. He hid it from the girl he is pursuing and she forced him to have to reveal it by being suspicious of the fact he was hiding photos. Her immediate reaction was one of shock and the first question she thought to ask was about his relationship with the mother. Now because she didn't gush over how cute the child he tried to hide from her was (in the few seconds after she was surprised to find out he had a son anyway), sentimental people who want her to gush over the child now want to make her out to be this cold person for wanting to know where the mother was first and foremost.


If what she wants to know is important to how their friendship/relationship - which Jackson wants to turn into something more - develops, she has every right to know certain things. And him having a son is about as important a thing to mention to a person you're interested in getting with as it can get.

I can see both sides of this argument. I believe Georgina was shocked and was trying to absorb the information, and didn't know quite how to respond- I think she, therefore, felt awkward and this is why she giggled, which can be a common response in such situations.

However, I don't think Jackson was trying to be devious about his son or trying to hide anything. Who's to say when the right time is to reveal private information? This is very early days at this stage- they really have spent so little time with each other so far, as we are only a few weeks in, and Jackson has spent the majority of time in the other house, so they are still getting to know each other. In general, people do not tell people everything about themselves the moment they begin to be interested in someone- we gradually reveal more information about ourselves as we feel more secure about someone. This is in order to protect ourselves and the things that are most precious to us- in this case his son.

I think people are being very harsh on Jackson. His son clearly means the world to him, and the situation is obviously very painful to him- we don't know what has happened in his relationship with his son's mother, so I don't feel it is right to judge him without this information as it is just assumption.

I feel he was reluctant to share his photos, as maybe he didn't want to have to discuss his son on a tv show. I think he was afraid that showing the photo would bring out very painful and difficult emotions for him- which it clearly did- and he just didn't want this to happen as it is too raw for him, and because he is in the BB house. Although, he is on a reality to show, he is not obliged to share everything about himself, and be forced to discuss things he wants to protect, or are just too painful for him to discuss. However, having pressured him into sharing this with her, I would have expected Georgina to have shown a little more compassion and support when Jackson was obviously upset. Her failure to do so suggests that, emotionally, she just isn't on the same page as him, and is unlikely to be able to provide what he needs.

In my opinion this relationship is never going to work, and despite their attraction to each other, deep down they both know that- another reason why he might have been reluctant to open up about the most private and precious parts of his life. He has put Georgina on a pedestal but, again in my opinion, he is falling for the person he imagines her to be, rather than the person she really is- I feel this could be because he is at a stage in his life when he is ready to find that special someone, and is desperately trying to convince himself that Georgina is that someone. I think he is going to get hurt, as she cannot provide what he truly needs.

Georgina is already recognising all the negatives about the relationship, and has identified all the reasons it won't work. She has also been mentioning all the things she wants to change about Jackson- if you want to change someone so much, they are not the person for you. To show such embarrassment when thinking about him spending time with the important people in your life and such a reluctance about the idea of him being part of her social circle, is a massive sign that he isn't for her. Although she likes the person she is getting to know, I don't believe she would really entertain the idea of a proper relationship with him- I think she needs to be honest with herself and with Jackson about this.

I Love Georgina, and I like Jackson, but i don't like them as a couple, they just don't suit each other


I will remain loyal to Georgina, no matter what :)

more fool you.