Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 8849339)

Does Andy try though?

How many times in the past week have we seen him say he doesn't want to discuss it....I am very confused at you saying he always tries to make up, when he hasn't at all.

You say hughie will stab you in the back?

But what loyalties does hughie have to Andy or Jason? Why do you feel he owes them anything?

Let's face it, he has been far less vocal about Andy than Andy has about him when the other person is not there.

Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 8849307)

True they have all talked about others :D Andy has talked directly to the person involved when he can (if he can) where if you watch closely Hughie doesn't approach others they approach him

In Andy's defense he and Jason have been the most ostracised by the vast majority of HM's for a longtime. The whole teesh hughie sam ryan etc throughout the series have excluded Jason & Andy at any given opportunity despite the fact Jason & Andy have always been the 1st 2 people the majority of time to try and calm things down during arguments/fights or right there if someone is upset.

I don't quite understand why those 2 were picked out from the group to be the butt of most jokes & name-calling other than they are older wiser and have more than an elastic band holding their ears in place in their brains :hehe:

So to be fair Andy has no choice the majority of time after being shouted at or if denied a chance to talk to someone to clear the air but to goto the DR to talk it out....but at least Andy tries..

Hughie will tell you he loves you with one face - talk behind your back - stab you in the back - insert knife & twist - blame everyone but himself..:shrug:

Originally Posted by Littlegreen (Post 8849371)

Andy tried his hardest to be part of the bedroom gang early on, even getting involved with the bitching when Lateysha got told by Natalie that Hughie had been slagging her off.

The reason he and Jason were segregated was because they purposely took themselves out into the garden to whine about those in the bedroom.

Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 8849368)

I have explained my opinion of it all sadly I can't understand it for you.. sorry :hehe:

Originally Posted by Littlegreen (Post 8849371)

Andy tried his hardest to be part of the bedroom gang early on, even getting involved with the bitching when Lateysha got told by Natalie that Hughie had been slagging her off.

The reason he and Jason were segregated was because they purposely took themselves out into the garden to whine about those in the bedroom.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 8849377)

What rubbish. Re - writing history now? :laugh:

Originally Posted by -Sue- (Post 8849393)

so basically Andy talked to his fellow HM's and then had the audacity to walk into the garden that made him enemy number 1?:shrug:

Lets be honest here all of them talk about each other but my point is I feel that during the show Andy & Jason were ganged up on by many many HMs. And not just once or twice..Huge difference between talking about people and being ostracised

Originally Posted by Littlegreen (Post 8849411)

It's not rubbish, he was there lying in the bed near them when they were bitching.

Which led to all this...

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...onfronts-andy/

Originally Posted by Littlegreen (Post 8849418)

Jason was ostracised mainly because of Charlie, Andy got outed as a snake quite early on and nobody trusted him except Jason.

Originally Posted by Littlegreen (Post 8849418)

Jason was ostracised mainly because of Charlie, Andy got outed as a snake quite early on and nobody trusted him except Jason.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 8849458)

It is your opinion and that of the little bedroom clique that he was 'outed' as a snake. Others see it as he showed his principles early on and has remained principled, just as the bedroom clique remained two faced, rude, loud and unprincipled.
It is also very telling that Jason trusted him. Another mature, principled man seeing good qualities in another. :hee: