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Drew. 25-07-2016 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 8849879)
She wasn't pursuing anyone, he led her on
The time Jason gave Evelyn a shirt to wear when Charlie lost it is a good example of her obsessiveness over him. That wasn't normal behaviour at all, it was controlling if anything. He gave no signs at all of being interested leading up to that, the surprise from the other housemates to her reaction speaks volumes

Greg! 25-07-2016 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TomC (Post 8849891)
He didn't lead her on. Can't comment on the 'lie' as I don't know if it's true or not. Can it even be called a lie?
Well he didn't tell the truth, put it that way.

Lister of Smeg 25-07-2016 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 8849893)
He flipped flopped all the time. One minute they were friends, next minute they would talk about it on the outside.
Hemail made it very clear to her :nono:

Macie Lightfoot 25-07-2016 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Raph (Post 8849769)
For me, my main issue is that Charlie has applied to the show for years, whereas Jason was just recruited based on Charlie getting cast and thus has ZERO merit from being on the show, other than trying to leech off of Charlie's success. The fact that he had the audacity to treat Charlie the way he did when she is the SOLE reason that he got cast makes me angry. Further, the fact that he has taken the opportunity away from not just Charlie, but also Lateysha and Ryan both of whom really appreciated the opportunity they were given angers me even more. He's just a complete LOSER who NEVER smiles and is just entirely whoring himself off of Charlie's success. I feel for her lots. Her dream was ruined by this loser getting cast and being a complete and UTTER prick to her.
the sad thing is that I know for a fact that this isn't ironic or a self-parody or trolling, it's one hundred percent serious.

LukeB 25-07-2016 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8849875)
It wasn't equal at all,he never gave her a hard time ,it was HER who was persuing him,he did nothing wrong
It was HIM as well. Jason wasn't a victim in this either was Charlie. Both gave it to each other. No one was a villain/victim in this situation, I felt sorry for them both to be put in this situation but I'm not going to blame Jason without blaming Charlie too.

kirklancaster 25-07-2016 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TomC (Post 8849697)
I don't wanna sound hostile, but I am slightly disappointed at the view of this by the TIBB regulars/off-season people.

Like, what has Jason actually done wrong? He tried to deal with Charlie as well as he could, and people make baseless claims that he's 'fake'? :conf:

Whereas Charlie, who put Jason in such an awkward position, was emotionally abusive, came in and game him a barrage of abuse including the c-word is praised...

I just don't quite understand how some people can let their favourites get away with certain behaviour.
:clap1::clap1::clap1: EXACTLY RIGHT.

Liam- 25-07-2016 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 8849898)
Well he didn't tell the truth, put it that way.
If he has a new girlfriend, how do you think she would have reacted had he of told her about it? the scene over him giving Evelyn a shirt to sleep in provides some evidence that she would have gone bat **** crazy over it, causing more hassle than needed, if it's true, not telling her in there was probably thr best decision.

Pete. 25-07-2016 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot (Post 8849901)
the sad thing is that I know for a fact that this isn't ironic or a self-parody or trolling, it's one hundred percent serious.
He's speaking the truth though :unsure:

LukeB 25-07-2016 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete. (Post 8849911)
He's speaking the truth though :unsure:
Duh it's Raph, he's(macie) always following his(Raphs) posts and trying to take the mick. :p

TomC 25-07-2016 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8849909)
If he has a new girlfriend, how do you think she would have reacted had he of told her about it? the scene over him giving Evelyn a shirt to sleep in provides some evidence that she would have gone bat **** crazy over it, causing more hassle than needed, if it's true, not telling her in there was probably thr best decision.
Agreed.

Greg! 25-07-2016 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8849909)
If he has a new girlfriend, how do you think she would have reacted had he of told her about it? the scene over him giving Evelyn a shirt to sleep in provides some evidence that she would have gone bat **** crazy over it, causing more hassle than needed, if it's true, not telling her in there was probably thr best decision.
Giving Evelyn the shirt upset Charlie because it's something Jason used to do to her when they were together. Obviously she'd be upset by it because it reminds her of the past. If Jason had been honest with her and made clear they have no future there's no doubt she'd be upset but at least it would give her closure. Hiding the truth from someone because it will make them upset is weak imo

Babayaro. 25-07-2016 05:31 PM
Yeah so what if he has a girlfriend that he did not tell Charlie about. It's not like he was shagging Charlie at the time so what difference does it make. And like Liam said, it's probably best that he didn't say anything as it would have made the situation much worse.

Macie Lightfoot 25-07-2016 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete. (Post 8849911)
He's speaking the truth though :unsure:
I don't consider making it on to the seventeenth installment of a dying reality show as success but to each their own?

Liam- 25-07-2016 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 8849921)
Giving Evelyn the shirt upset Charlie because it's something Jason used to do to her when they were together. Obviously she'd be upset by it because it reminds her of the past. If Jason had been honest with her and made clear they have no future there's no doubt she'd be upset but at least it would give her closure. Hiding the truth from someone because it will make them upset is weak imo
I'm pretty sure that Charlie got angry because, and I quote 'He's only doing that to piss me off' :joker:

Yes, of course being in love with someone who doesn't love you back anymore is tough and she's bound to be haunted by memories that they had, but to actively go out of your way to make out like everything he's doing, is being done to offend you or to upset you, is ludicrous.

Beso 25-07-2016 05:34 PM
Jason only flipped and turned violent because she dumped him and he still wanted her.

Macie Lightfoot 25-07-2016 05:37 PM
it also seems pretty neglectful to mention the fact that even if a lot of the stuff Charlie says about Jason is true, she is ****ing insane (and I say that lovingly) and Jason is pretty much correct about her too?

and I'm sure people are gonna yell and scream and disagree, but she SO moved that dog with her foot probably a little too forcefully for his liking

Daniel. 25-07-2016 05:38 PM
He's a vile thug who treats legend Charlie like ****

Lister of Smeg 25-07-2016 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 8849921)
Giving Evelyn the shirt upset Charlie because it's something Jason used to do to her when they were together. Obviously she'd be upset by it because it reminds her of the past. If Jason had been honest with her and made clear they have no future there's no doubt she'd be upset but at least it would give her closure. Hiding the truth from someone because it will make them upset is weak imo
Charlie's response to that was pathetic she acted like Jason marched over ripped Evelyn clothes off and gave her a D'ing in front of her.

Northern Monkey 25-07-2016 05:39 PM
Now suppose Jason had acted like/treated Charlie the way she did him.What would everyone be saying?
They would be saying he's an emotional abuser and how he should be arrested for it.Charlie is getting off very lightly in comparison to if that situation was reversed.

Crimson Dynamo 25-07-2016 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel. (Post 8849952)
He's a vile thug who treats legend Charlie like ****
stay pressed sis

kirklancaster 25-07-2016 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8849909)
If he has a new girlfriend, how do you think she would have reacted had he of told her about it? the scene over him giving Evelyn a shirt to sleep in provides some evidence that she would have gone bat **** crazy over it, causing more hassle than needed, if it's true, not telling her in there was probably thr best decision.
:clap1::clap1::clap1: Bang On Liam, AND it was NOTHING to do with her.

Liam- 25-07-2016 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8849955)
Now suppose Jason had acted like/treated Charlie the way she did him.What would everyone be saying?
They would be saying he's an emotional abuser and how he should be arrested for it.Charlie is getting off very lightly in comparison to if that situation was reversed.
Of course she is, she's a woman, most women get the angel treatment on here no matter what they do, especially if it's against a man.

kirklancaster 25-07-2016 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 8849922)
Yeah so what if he has a girlfriend that he did not tell Charlie about. It's not like he was shagging Charlie at the time so what difference does it make. And like Liam said, it's probably best that he didn't say anything as it would have made the situation much worse.
Bang on right.

kirklancaster 25-07-2016 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8849958)
stay pressed sis
:joker::joker::joker: 'Groovy, Baby'. :hee:

LukeB 25-07-2016 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8849961)
Of course she is, she's a woman, most women get the angel treatment on here no matter what they do, especially if it's against a man.
some people calling females sluts,bad mother,fat etc on here is hardly angel treatment.


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