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20-08-2016 05:43 PM |
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Originally Posted by Amy Jade
(Post 8930359)
So again it's everyone's fault but his? Sorry I can't fathom how him making the choice to cheat on a girl he had introduced to his family and made commitments to is anyone's fault but his own.
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I already previously said that I didn't agree with his actions, but it's also not something that is going to sway my opinion of him at all, however it will for many people which is a shame that his personal life is getting brought into and over his housemate status. The show is only to blame for that.
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Originally Posted by hot2go
(Post 8930362)
I agree with you ... On every point you've made.... I suppose it all depends on what people consider a villain ... I think Bear is genuine and no where near as hard faced as any of the remaining housemates.
I dislike passive aggressive people so for me Bear, with his Up Yours attitude to the game, is more my type of person.
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For sure, I've heard/seen Ricky, Renee, Aubrey, Marnie and even Frankie (on BBUSA) say/do a lot worse things than Bear ever has. Bear is totally my type of person too - to watch on a tv show or be friends with irl.
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Originally Posted by power2thepeople
(Post 8930376)
So if we go down this route, BB should have kept a lid on Biggins comments and not evicted him to the obvious career ****storm?
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No? What relevance does Chris' comment have to this conversation? :conf:
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Originally Posted by rusticgal
(Post 8930389)
So goading people to the point of tears is your idea of a joke??
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If we're talking about Renee, well the woman cries at everything. She cries when she's mad, when she tries to make it up with Bear, when she's talking about her past, when she receives a letter off her son, when she shouts and is 'mean' to someone... The list goes on. It's not really Bear's problem if she can't handle herself.
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Originally Posted by alex_front2
(Post 8930553)
He could do a Pyrex in get a shock eviction prior to final, however Bear is definitely a front runner. He will inherit some of Lewis votes (so will Marnie) and even James's.
He gets most air time which often helps in VTS. HE'S got casual viewers backing him, women and teen girls who vote fancy him, and he has a strong social media fandom in a way Sam Fox and Renee doesn't.
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I would really like it if at some point every female who votes for a male wasn't placed into the 'fancies him' category. Some people out there genuinely like him for who he is rather than for shallow reasons yknow.
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Originally Posted by Lostie!
(Post 8930591)
Nobody is.
Well precisely. People are judging Bear for something he 100% did do. Why should people overlook that on the basis of "Well she might have too!" when we've no indication of anything of the sort? Just reeks of yet more trying to absolve Bear of the blame for his own actions by putting the girl he cheated on under scrutiny instead.
Couldn't disagree more with that, I see way more malice and cruel intent in Bear than I ever did in Marc.
And Bear is still the villain. If I'd been stuck with someone as utterly spiteful as him who'd taken so much glee in upsetting others for over 3 weeks I'd be glad to see him get a taste of his own medicine too.
I honestly find it odd that people can defend Bear constantly and say he's doing nothing wrong but vilify another for something much lesser (and much more justified) just because it's aimed at Bear instead.
We've reached the point where Bear can't possibly do anything wrong but everything anyone else (who is anti-Bear of course) does is terrible.
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Judge him all you like for what he did - it's completely valid and I'm sure even he would say the same. All I was saying was that it's not something that I feel should have been highlighted by the show itself rather than by own actions because I think it's highly unfair, especially when everyone else is getting positive things and he gets ****.
Bear is only the 'villain' because the majority of people don't speak for more than two sentences at a time and because he's willing to actually create some fun and do something a little daring and exciting rather than act as though he's interested in hearing about how great Sam thinks she and the UK apparently do for the 72638th time. Some of the goings on I've seen in that house have been much more 'evil' than dropping some eggs on the floor for absolute sure.
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