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Lauren 16-03-2007 05:58 PM

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Originally posted by Ella
Her father said afterwards that his daughter had been on a regime of lettuce and diet cola in an attempt to lose weight.
:bored: The fact she was a UK size 6 when this happened speaks volumes about the modelling industry. Clearly size 6 wasn't meant for her frame, it was fatal - yet she STILL felt she needed to lose weight. I sympathise for any girl that feels that way.

Ella 16-03-2007 05:59 PM

What makes it even more sad is that her sister was just 22 when she died.

Her father lost two daughters at the hands of the modelling industry :sad:

Ella 16-03-2007 06:00 PM

Her body mass index (BMI) was found to be below the level considered by the World Health Organisation to be starvation.

Despite what happened to her sister, Ms Ramos, nicknamed Elle by family and friends, had decided to continue her modelling career.

She had signed with one of Argentina’s top agencies and the blonde, blue-eyed teenager was considered to have a promising career in Europe and the United States in front of her.

The younger Ms Ramos had recently been signed up by Dotto Models, the agency that represented her sister.

Yesterday Pancho Dotto, the agency’s owner, dismissed claims that an eating disorder was responsible for Eliana’s death. “She was very healthy, she ate well and played sports,” he said. “She was never extremely thin. It is absurd to talk of alimentary deficiency, anorexia, bulimia and all that.

“It is clear that the deaths of the Ramos sisters are due to a genetic problem and not an eating disorder.”

Luisel’s death, one of several among young South American models in recent months, prompted an intense debate in the fashion industry about the use of so-called “size-zero” models. In Madrid and Milan, fashion week organisers imposed a BMI minimum for all models taking part in shows.

London’s refusal to ban “zero-size” models caused a furore about whether organisers were doing enough to protect young girls desperate for success in an industry that demands that its models should be thin.

In Săo Paulo organisers of the city’s fashion week banned models under 16 and demanded a health certificate from girls taking part in runway shows, partly in response to the death last November of Ana Carolina Reston, 21, who died of complications arising from anorexia. At the time of her death she weighed 6st (40kg).

Lauren 16-03-2007 06:04 PM

How can Panco Dotto (Clearly a stage name) say that she was healthy when she was below the levels of starvation?! She couldn't do sports if all she lived on was lettuce and diet coke - it's impossible.
Denying anything is wrong seems to be a big trend amongst models and aspiring models?

Sunny_01 16-03-2007 06:12 PM

I think that anyone who dismisses all of this as nonsense is very niave about the whole issue.

The hard fact is this girl died from anorexia and in her latter stages of life was considered a top model! how can that be right!

Designers really need to be more socially responsible about they way they portray women in fashion.

Red Moon 16-03-2007 06:17 PM

One of Mr Dotto latest victims straight from his website. She clearly too thin for her own good and the picture isn't a fake!

Sunny_01 16-03-2007 06:21 PM

I just think that this issue will never go away sadly - more and more designers are now refusing to use models with an usafe BMI though which shows some level of responsibility

~Kizwiz~ 16-03-2007 06:26 PM

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Size zero models 'made' me 4st

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...02119800-1.jpg
Fighting back ... brave Emma today, right, and at the height of her illness, weighing less than 5st

By DULCIE PEARCE
January 17, 2007

EMMA WHEATLEY sighed with despair as she flicked through her fashion mags.

Turning the pages and gazing at the models with their protruding collarbones and rib cages, she wished she could one day look like them.

Staring at her reflection in the mirror, the 15-year-old felt disgusted by what she saw. She vowed not to eat another mouthful for at least two days.
Yet at the time she was envying the stick-thin girls in the glossies, 5ft 5in Emma weighed only 4st 10lb.

Furthermore, she had just been told she was so thin she was two weeks from death.
The date was March 2001 and Emma’s heart was close to shutting down.
She was also nearly blind and had to admire those models with the magazine pages pressed right up against her face.

She had not had a period for a year and was too weak to dress herself.

Like an increasing number of young, impressionable girls, she was dying from the eating disorder anorexia nervosa.

Thankfully, Emma went on to make an amazing recovery — and now, aged 20, she is a healthy size 10.

But she remains angry about the fashion industry’s championing of size zero figures and is telling her story today as part of Sun Woman’s campaign to promote healthy body images.

Her eyesight did not recover and she can barely see without contact lenses.

She also has fertility problems which she has been warned could make it difficult to conceive in the future.

Emma remembers feeling immense pressure to look like the skeletal celebrities and models that fill magazines.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...0702120000.jpg

And she is horrified there are now websites ENCOURAGING anorexia (so-called “Pro Ana” sites) devoted to extolling the looks of ultra-skinny stars.

The bank cashier, from Stone, Staffs, says: “In my opinion these sites breed insecurities which creates the illness. People on them talk about celebrities they idolise, like Nicole Richie and Kate Bosworth.

“These stars have never admitted to having eating disorders, but they are terrible role models, and shouldn’t be allowed on the covers of magazines — they simply promote the illness.

“Celebs like Charlotte Church and Beyonce have the kind of bodies women should want. They look healthy and comfortable with themselves, rather than thin and miserable. The Pro Ana websites are an absolute disgrace. They fuel people’s addictions to not eating, making some sort of sick competition out of it.

“I have been on sites where girls are egging each other on to fast for days and giving tips on how to get rid of food without their parents finding out.”

Emma’s illness began at the age of 14 when she was bullied by schoolmates.
She says: “Most of my friends were boys and a group of girls at school didn’t like it.

They would call me names and shout abuse at me every day, which always included the word ‘fat’.

“I was only a size 12 and had never thought of myself as overweight. But I started to think they were right. They made my life a misery and I thought the only way to stop them was to lose weight.

“I desperately wanted to look like the skinny girls on catwalks and in magazines.”
Thankfully Emma’s parents, Karen, 42 and Peter, 48, became concerned by her weight loss and took her to see their GP.

In September 2000, the teenager was diagnosed with anorexia.

Karen and Peter desperately tried to help their daughter but were forced to watch her die slowly.

Emma recalls: “I was losing half a stone a week and I only drank water. I was doing 1,000 sit-ups before I went to bed and going to the gym every day.

“I had no idea how bad I looked. All I could see was a big, fat blob in the mirror. I’d mistake protruding bones for rolls of fat, and was convinced I was huge.”

As Emma’s weight loss increased, her body started to break down.
“I couldn’t do anything for myself and my parents had to bathe and dress me,” she says.
“I didn’t even have the strength to sit up on my own.
“My periods stopped and my eyesight was so bad I had to press a book to my nose to read it. These are the side-effects of anorexia most people don’t know about.”

Her parents were advised to place her in an eating disorder rehabilitation unit.
“I desperately didn’t want to go there, and begged to stay at home. Mum eventually agreed, but everything had to change.”

With the threat of being hospitalised and her parents’ support, Emma slowly started eating again. She gradually gained enough weight to get her out of danger.
She remembers: “It sounds strange, but eating was the hardest thing I have ever had to do. I still have to plan everything I eat, even now, and I don’t know if my obsession with food will ever stop.”

“It has done terrible damage. I can’t see a thing without my contact lenses, when I used to have perfect eyesight. I will always have trouble with my menstrual cycle and may have problems with my fertility.”

Survivors of eating disorders can also face long-term problems including tooth decay, osteoporosis and ovarian cysts.

Emma is now married to Ian, 37. She says: “I’m a healthy 9st and size 10 but sometimes think I’m overweight.

“I still have days when I can’t stand the way I look and hate feeling so fat,” she says. “But looking at some of the ‘thinspiration’ celebrities on the Pro Ana sites, I can see they look awful and don’t find that appealing any more.
“People who visit these sites should realise anorexia isn’t fun. It’s not glamorous but a disorder that will affect you for life.”
Source: The Sun

Lauren 16-03-2007 06:29 PM

Oh my god! Kiz, thats such a terrible story - but it's brilliant she's fought back.
She looks gorgeous as she is now, such a recovery.

It's disturbing people turn to that :sad:

Crystal-Rose 16-03-2007 06:37 PM

:shocked:
omg!
that frist photo is horrific!
she must be way in the minus sizes
let alone size zero!
How could the modeling industry have let her got like that
surley she should have had support as it was clear she had an eating disorder :bored::bored:

Red Moon 16-03-2007 06:57 PM

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Tomato diet model dies of anorexia
A fashion model who lived on a diet of apples and tomatoes has died from kidney failure on the eve of a photographic shoot.

Ana Carolina Reston, 21, who had been modelling since she was 13, weighed six stone.

The 5ft 7in Brazilian was due to travel to France to work but instead spent the last three weeks of her life in hospital. Her death comes amid fears that designers are still using size zero models suffering from anorexia despite calls that they should be banned because they encourage eating disorders in young women.

The trend for size zero models – equivalent to a British size four – began as a fad in Los Angeles. Miss Reston died in San Paolo on Tuesday. She is the second anorexic model to die this year. Luisel Ramos, 22, suffered a heart attack in August after living on lettuce leaves and Diet Coke for three months.

Relatives said Miss Reston had resisted admitting she was ill. Geise Strauss, 30, her cousin, said: "When she did eat, she ate very little and she'd go to the bathroom and make herself sick as soon as she left the table. She liked apples and she adored tomatoes but that was about it."

Viviane Setti, the mother of Miss Reston's boyfriend, said: "Ana's death should serve as a wake-up call to all modelling agencies about anorexia. There's nothing glamorous about an ending like hers."

Last month, specialists at the eating disorders service and research unit at King's College, London, wrote to the British Fashion Council criticising the use of super-thin models who are "clearly anorexic".
Source:The Telegraph

Picture Credit:FMD - database

Red Moon 16-03-2007 07:07 PM

And one of the people partly to blame Nicole Miller.

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In the Unites States, Banana Republic and Nicole Miller will introduce "sub-zero" sized fashions for women this fall, taking skinny sizes to a new low.
Source: NBC 11 (November 17, 2006)

MarkWaldorf 16-03-2007 07:09 PM

^^That just shows how dangerous 'size zero' really is.

Lauren 16-03-2007 07:15 PM

Sub-zero? Dear God.

Red Moon 16-03-2007 07:20 PM

That is this thin........ (Victoria Beckham)..... UK size 4

lily. 16-03-2007 09:44 PM

I'm utterly appalled at the comments posted here by Gemma. They are very pro-ana and I find it worrying that a young girl (I'm not sure what her age is) has been influenced so much by the fashion industry that she thinks this is all ok.

I'm just wondering how long it will be before a comment is posted directed at myself or someone like me (in the "over size 12" category) saying that we are only criticizing these models because we are jealous.

lily. 16-03-2007 09:52 PM

This is disturbing:

CLICKY-CLICKY

This part especially:

6 weeks ago, I had a baby... she is beautiful! I did really well while I was pregnant... was pretty healthy for the most part. When I got pregnant, I weighed 117 (at 5' 7"). When I had her 6 weeks ago, I weighed 157 (pregnant). I am now 134. I have gone back to not eating this week and I feel SO MUCH BETTER! But let me tell you what was said to me: My husband's friend told me that I look beautiful as a new mother and of course, my response to him was "don't you remember what I looked like as a size 2?" Then he said, "You are a new kind of beautiful... like a Beyonce beautiful." He meant it as a compliment... but I personally think that Beyonce looks fat. I have 17 pounds to go. I have lost 7 just this week... so I am off to a good start... no more Beyonce curves!

I hate curves!!


How would she feel if this were her daughter's words?

James 16-03-2007 10:35 PM

In another thread I mentioned the documentary I saw a while ago which suggested that eating disorders might not totally be the result of media pressure to be slim. I have found an article about it and the transcript of the programme. It is quite interesting to read.

Excerpt of article...

Quote:

Doctors studying the causes of the eating disorders anorexia and bulimia believe it has less to do with media images of slim-figured models and more to do with biological and genetic factors.

Anorexia nervosa is a form of intentional self-starvation. It affects about 5% of young girls in Britain. It is the psychological illness with the highest death rate.

Bulimia nervosa involves a cycle of starving and eating binges and is also highly dangerous.

Some campaigners blame the incidence of such eating disorders on the prevalence of slim role models in modern society.

But research indicates that the disorders are a problem even in a society where fat is considered beautiful and has produced evidence that some people could be genetically more likely to develop them.....
Full article - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/259226.stm

Transcript of programme - http://web.archive.org/web/200103160...at3trans.shtml

Lauren 16-03-2007 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by Linda
This is disturbing:

CLICKY-CLICKY

This part especially:

6 weeks ago, I had a baby... she is beautiful! I did really well while I was pregnant... was pretty healthy for the most part. When I got pregnant, I weighed 117 (at 5' 7"). When I had her 6 weeks ago, I weighed 157 (pregnant). I am now 134. I have gone back to not eating this week and I feel SO MUCH BETTER! But let me tell you what was said to me: My husband's friend told me that I look beautiful as a new mother and of course, my response to him was "don't you remember what I looked like as a size 2?" Then he said, "You are a new kind of beautiful... like a Beyonce beautiful." He meant it as a compliment... but I personally think that Beyonce looks fat. I have 17 pounds to go. I have lost 7 just this week... so I am off to a good start... no more Beyonce curves!

I hate curves!!


How would she feel if this were her daughter's words?
If anyones thinking "Lauren's just like Beyonce" - just go ahead and say it, I won't be offended. :wink:

Right anyway, this is serious - I shouldn't make jokes. That extract is sad Linda, especially when she see's the pregnancy as a burden - what makes her motivated to go back to being anorexic again? Is it the media?

Lauren 16-03-2007 10:56 PM

And James, there's been Psychological studies done on Anorexia Nervosa and the influence of the media. It was found that Egyptian women who moved to Britain had a higher chance of getting Anorexia as opposed to if they stayed in Egypt... the concordance rate was VERY high.
I can't remember exact details of the study, but it basically showed that media has a big influence on it.

Sunny_01 16-03-2007 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Linda
I'm utterly appalled at the comments posted here by Gemma. They are very pro-ana and I find it worrying that a young girl (I'm not sure what her age is) has been influenced so much by the fashion industry that she thinks this is all ok.

I'm just wondering how long it will be before a comment is posted directed at myself or someone like me (in the "over size 12" category) saying that we are only criticizing these models because we are jealous.
I agree with what you say here Linda, the words do sound pro-ana which is very disturbing. I am in the over size 12 gang as well so I must just be jealous of how thin these girls are NOT!

James 16-03-2007 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lauren
And James, there's been Psychological studies done on Anorexia Nervosa and the influence of the media. It was found that Egyptian women who moved to Britain had a higher chance of getting Anorexia as opposed to if they stayed in Egypt... the concordance rate was VERY high.
I can't remember exact details of the study, but it basically showed that media has a big influence on it.
Here is a journal article that refers to it - http://www.emro.who.int/Publications/EMHJ/0502/20.htm

Google Scholar brings up a load of papers that cites it, if you are interested... http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl...93837462233554

lily. 16-03-2007 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sunny_01
I agree with what you say here Linda, the words do sound pro-ana which is very disturbing. I am in the over size 12 gang as well so I must just be jealous of how thin these girls are NOT!
This is bringing a whole new meaning to "drop dead gorgeous" isn't it? Apparently it's fashionable to be ill.

Sunny_01 16-03-2007 11:41 PM

Well I would rather my family remained unfashionable if thats how you have to look to be called "fashionable" :cheer2:

xGemmax 17-03-2007 01:33 AM

I can't remember exactly where those photos were proven to be fake, but i still thought it would have been obvious anyway.

http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/skinny.html < please visit this website which shows these photos are not real! If i can find more examples i will show them too.


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