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y.winter 08-02-2017 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9211370)
I get what Winter's saying, she has changed artistically tbf. But I think she's always been credible as a musician and I don't think her current era is her trying to chase that. I actually think it's kind of the opposite, that when she started she was chasing 'fame' and did a lot of the things she did to get noticed, whereas now she's more able to just do what she wants. Because all those things she used to do, they were just layers on top of her artistic-ness (if that's a word). I think she's always had more to offer than the average pop star and that's clear even from The Fame Monster, but I just think it's a case of her getting older and adapting her music to how she feels now, which any musician probably does.

I accept it. I just found her first two singles from the last albums not interesting/amusing as they should be. She's a good singer, but it wasn't something to release as a single, especially not first. This John Wayne sounds and looks more like her, but still not as strong as some of her previous singles.

Jamie89 08-02-2017 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 9211377)
of course she has :laugh: musicians have to develop if not for fans, then for themselves

interest in her has dwindled, but I'd say that's more to do with how the music scene has changed in the past 8-10 years than anything else

Yeah, that and just that she was so big it would be impossible to maintain that level of interest permanently. And I think part of the attraction was just because she was new and different so obviously after a while that would die down a bit.

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Originally Posted by y.winter (Post 9211379)
I accept it. I just found her first two singles from the last albums not interesting/amusing as they should be. She's a good singer, but it wasn't something to release as a single, especially not first. This John Wayne sounds and looks more like her, but still not as strong as some of her previous singles.

It's funny, I loved her when she released her first album but then I wasn't too interested in the songs she released afterwards and haven't really been a fan for years or followed her very closely, but it was Perfect Illusion that got me interested in her again :laugh:

TomC 08-02-2017 08:09 PM

^ Yep, PI was the song that made me a hardcore fan (but I accept I'm one in a million).

I just love the unpredictability of this video, even if I did kinda want this era to be coherent. Video-wise, I feel Joanne has just gone from her most to least coherent album in terms of videos.

Jake. 08-02-2017 08:25 PM

went to watch the video and its been taken down or s/t :worry:

Marsh. 08-02-2017 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by y.winter (Post 9211366)
it makes sense. there's no point in dismissing other opinions with "doesn't make any sense" in multiple variations, Marsh.
As someone who doesn't actively listen to Lady Gaga songs, as well as many other people, the exposure/interest she gets has been in decline - and it says a lot.
Bring as many numbers of sales as you want, of course she'll sale millions because she's still lady gaga, but it still doesn't make up for the lack of interest she creates these days. No one talks about lady gaga these days as much as they did when she exploded on the radio and the internet with every music video and single she released.

I haven't said you don't make sense because it's a "different opinion" I've said it makes little sense because that's what I think about what you're saying.

Of course she isn't making as much of a rumble as she did at the beginning, just as the world is no longer shocked by Madonna's antics as they were in the 80s. The world gets used to things and moves on. That's how it works. Nobody can stay at the top with that much exposure, it's impossible.

I wasn't mentioning sales or numbers, I was commenting on your comments about her music or her style changing when if you actually look at all of her career from 2008 to present her experimentation with songs and genres has not changed and yet somehow "Perfect Illusion" is her trying to do rock and be "credible" and somehow the first time you've noticed this, it's not the first pop song to have influences from other genres (Gaga or not) and it won't be the last.

She's been seen as a credible artist for ages whether she's done a shallow pop number or a slow ballad.

Jamie89 08-02-2017 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 9211395)
went to watch the video and its been taken down or s/t :worry:

This link still works for me...

https://vid.me/e/NxCZ?card=1

Marsh. 08-02-2017 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 9211395)
went to watch the video and its been taken down or s/t :worry:

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9211400)
This link still works for me...

https://vid.me/e/NxCZ?card=1

Why are you still watching dodgy links when it's on vevo now ladies. :nono:

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 08-02-2017 08:37 PM

why are there numerous essay's in a mv thread

Jamie89 08-02-2017 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by That Girl (Post 9211408)
why are there numerous essay's in a mv thread

John Wayne's impact :love:

Jake. 08-02-2017 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9211400)
This link still works for me...

https://vid.me/e/NxCZ?card=1

Thanks Jamie!

Very similar to Telephone, I liked it. Simple & fun.

iRyan 09-02-2017 03:38 AM

Why is Dancin' In Circles being paid dust

Marsh. 09-02-2017 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by iRyan (Post 9211615)
Why is Dancin' In Circles being paid dust

I want to see Gaga touch haself

Smithy 09-02-2017 04:42 PM

Ok *now* it's on VEVO


Samm 11-02-2017 11:55 PM

joanne left rotting in 2016, gaga is back wig

Marsh. 11-02-2017 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Samm (Post 9214431)
joanne left rotting in 2016, gaga is back wig

The song is from Joanne you fool.

Denver 11-02-2017 11:56 PM

Ok i like

Samm 12-02-2017 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9214432)
The song is from Joanne you fool.

I meant herself fool.

2016:


2017:

Smithy 12-02-2017 12:05 AM

Drag race was filmed in 2016

Samm 12-02-2017 12:07 AM

who cares, fad is becoming likeable again, glad she's realised from her mistakes :flowers:

Marsh. 12-02-2017 12:10 AM

Yes, her likability is linked to wearing a hat/wearing no hat. That must be it.

Smithy 12-02-2017 12:10 AM

Never known a fad last nearly a decade but ok let's keep rolling with that

EspeonBB 12-02-2017 12:11 AM

The pink hat was getting stale, she wore it for like all of late 2016

Smithy 12-02-2017 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9214469)
Yes, her likability is linked to wearing a hat/wearing no hat. That must be it.

http://i.imgur.com/xF0jBtv.jpg

No hat

Theory confirmed

Marsh. 12-02-2017 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 9214475)
http://i.imgur.com/xF0jBtv.jpg

No hat

Theory confirmed

:joker:

Marsh. 12-02-2017 12:12 AM

Her wearing several versions of the hat in John Wayne. :love:


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