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Brillopad 14-04-2017 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9281464)
"I know you are but what am I?"

Brownie points for your self-awareness.

Tom4784 14-04-2017 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9281475)
Brownie points for your self-awareness.

The irony.

Withano 14-04-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9281475)
Brownie points for your self-awareness.

You'll get there some day :)

Brillopad 14-04-2017 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9281488)
You'll get there some day :)

If you say so. :joker:

Brillopad 14-04-2017 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9281486)
The irony.

Says the expert!!!

Bye boys, I'll leave you to your games.

Withano 14-04-2017 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9281491)
Says the expert!!!

Bye boys, I'll leave you to your games.

Its ironic that in response to me quoting your "i know you are but what am i" catchphrase, you replied with "i know you are but what am i"
Why must i explain everything

Kizzy 15-04-2017 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9281459)
I'ts an analogy that demonstrates a particular mindset and very hostile bias against the West. It spoke volumes. Seriously, if you think it doesn't negate anything you're the deluded one.

I wish I had blind faith and scales for eyes... Unfortunately I don't.

Do you think it makes you more patriotic to close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears and berate others for daring to question the decisions of the UK government?
It doesn't, it makes you for me less, as how we are perceived by the rest of the world should be something to be proud of... I'm not proud, every day I'm getting less proud.
The British are resilient, good humoured and fair... recent govts are not, they do not represent us.

We are power hungry bomb peddlers with our noses in the trough of war!
You can warble 'god save the queen' and wave your little flag, but without a degree of acknowledgement it's a total sham.

Brillopad 15-04-2017 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9282517)
I wish I had blind faith and scales for eyes... Unfortunately I don't.

Do you think it makes you more patriotic to close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears and berate others for daring to question the decisions of the UK government?
It doesn't, it makes you for me less, as how we are perceived by the rest of the world should be something to be proud of... I'm not proud, every day I'm getting less proud.
The British are resilient, good humoured and fair... recent govts are not, they do not represent us.

We are power hungry bomb peddlers with our noses in the trough of war!
You can warble 'god save the queen' and wave your little flag, but without a degree of acknowledgement it's a total sham.

Sit there with my fingers in my ears, really, you do go off on a tangent. I question the UK government on many occasions and have pretty much detested some of our priministers i.e. Blair and Cameron and many of their policies over the years, like most, but it seems to me you are blaming May et al for Brexit when they are only doing what the the people wanted. They are therefore representing many of us, just not everyone - that's what public votes are about, you can't please everyone all of the time.

Let's get things in perspective shall we it's not the West that are the warmongers it's the Middle East - they are always at war with someone. There are times when the West have to intervene - whatever you personal reasons on why they do so. What's the point in having rules about the use of chemical weapons if, when abused, nothing is done - can you imagine what would happen if these idiots had nuclear power. Someone has to act. Are you happy for the world to stand by and do nothing when such atrocities are committed. Beggars belief.

Sounds to me that, despite your constant whining about the West doing little to help these countries, when it comes to them doing something you fear may actually affect you you sing a different tune. Let's just stand by with our fingers in our ears then shall we. Or is it because it's Trump that made that decision that you can't digest.

For the record I am not a supporter of royalty and have often questioned their value to Britain as a whole. I can see pros and cons but feel they get too much money and should pay their own way more - so once again more of your ridiculous assumptions.

jaxie 15-04-2017 08:53 AM

I think you have to ask yourself if any country did not plan to use chemical weapons why would they have them. Assad has admitted he had them. I think it is win at any cost with this regime and they think they are beyond the law with Russia backing them with their arms and veto.

Northern Monkey 15-04-2017 09:16 AM

I don't think you can say 100% without any investigation or evidence.Yes Assad has chemical weapons but then so do the 'rebels' supposedly.
The Russians keep calling for an investigation but the US seem reluctant.
I wouldn't like to commit either way.
Both sides have track records for lying.
It could've been a stockpile that got bombed or it could've been dropped by Assad or it could've been one of these many terror groups who call themselves rebels that we back.Who knows?

jaxie 15-04-2017 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9282547)
I don't think you can say 100% without any investigation or evidence.Yes Assad has chemical weapons but then so do the 'rebels' supposedly.
The Russians keep calling for an investigation but the US seem reluctant.
I wouldn't like to commit either way.
Both sides have track records for lying.
It could've been a stockpile that got bombed or it could've been dropped by Assad or it could've been one of these many terror groups who call themselves rebels that we back.Who knows?

But then Russia just veto's the draft un resolution calling for an investigation. :shrug:

Livia 15-04-2017 09:44 AM

Pull out of the Middle East, leave them to it.... and never intervene again.

Tozzie 15-04-2017 07:12 PM

We all can only speculate because no one of us really knows the truth because of propaganda, we just don't know what to believe but as I see it Assad is an evil man who thought nothing of having thousands killed who were protesting against his regime so why wouldn't we believe he is responsible for the gassing off all those people. Back in 2013 he allegedly used chemical weapons so he could have been responsible for this gassing too. He is a very angry man and I believe he wants all those against him to be killed.

user104658 15-04-2017 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9282560)
Pull out of the Middle East, leave them to it.... and never intervene again.

I'm inclined to agree. Not because I think it's "none of our business" or that the west hasn't CAUSED a lot of the problems in the middle east... but simply because we never, ever seem to make any of it any better. Always worse.

Northern Monkey 15-04-2017 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9282560)
Pull out of the Middle East, leave them to it.... and never intervene again.

I agree.Let Islam slaughter itself.The only thing that's going to change that religion is evolution and its not happening any time soon.
When they've killed each other for long enough they'll start to learn.

Kizzy 16-04-2017 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9282541)
Sit there with my fingers in my ears, really, you do go off on a tangent. I question the UK government on many occasions and have pretty much detested some of our priministers i.e. Blair and Cameron and many of their policies over the years, like most, but it seems to me you are blaming May et al for Brexit when they are only doing what the the people wanted. They are therefore representing many of us, just not everyone - that's what public votes are about, you can't please everyone all of the time.

Let's get things in perspective shall we it's not the West that are the warmongers it's the Middle East - they are always at war with someone. There are times when the West have to intervene - whatever you personal reasons on why they do so. What's the point in having rules about the use of chemical weapons if, when abused, nothing is done - can you imagine what would happen if these idiots had nuclear power. Someone has to act. Are you happy for the world to stand by and do nothing when such atrocities are committed. Beggars belief.

Sounds to me that, despite your constant whining about the West doing little to help these countries, when it comes to them doing something you fear may actually affect you you sing a different tune. Let's just stand by with our fingers in our ears then shall we. Or is it because it's Trump that made that decision that you can't digest.

For the record I am not a supporter of royalty and have often questioned their value to Britain as a whole. I can see pros and cons but feel they get too much money and should pay their own way more - so once again more of your ridiculous assumptions.

If there are rules about the use of chemical weapons why did we sell this country the very chemicals used in the weapon?... We have blood on our hands, you can remain as ignorant as you like, just don't expect everyone to.


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