Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9329642)

I'm feeling this a lot lately with my own posts. Had several pages of a thread the other day where people were assuming I'd said all kinds of unrelated things apart from what I actually said. And you think to yourself are people actually reading the words or is there some sort of weird forum translator I'm not party to that changes the words you typed but don't show you the changes.

I also find people will lump you in with the politics they think you share. Personally I have equal disillusion with both sides of the main parties and various of the other small groups but because I will speak up when things seem unjustified or unbalanced to me, and I'm pro Brexit, people think I'm on the right, although I could argue that a true socialist should be Brexit all the way. It seems to me that most people in politics are an insincere bunch of crooks. It's funny though if I say something nice or fair about May or the government I'm considered a raging Tory yet everyone totally missed my saying Corbyn came over well on the One Show the other day. :shrug: The forum gets more and more like the twilight zone every time I look in.

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9329601)

....Maru..:lovedup:.. your posts always have so much thought in seeing so much from different perspectives....



...I do sometimes wonder Withano, do people/posters even see each other anymore because what has stood out in the threads I have read is that people are just 'put into boxes' based on their politics...we are all living in a world of fear and totally united in that/as one with that...but we have different thoughts of what we think will bring the changes needed...pointing fingers at each other just makes for circles of pointless discussions/..(I know you've taught so it's like those awful situations when you can get into real negative times with a child and then neither of you are really listening to each other anymore because you need to find a point you can both begin on to achieve something positive..?..)...(probably an awful analogy but oh well..)...

..anyways I fairly much agree with Sheriff..if any specific single posts are thought to 'cross the line' and are found to be disturbing in some way then report them, there is no need to point fingers...it's just a pointless thing to do and just contributes equally as negatively to the whole thing...and of course, it's exactly what terrorism strives for/to divide us and try to envelope us in the 'hate' thrive on....

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9329691)

If we were sitting watchng all this on bb we would be pointing and laughing.

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9329642)

I'm feeling this a lot lately with my own posts. Had several pages of a thread the other day where people were assuming I'd said all kinds of unrelated things apart from what I actually said. And you think to yourself are people actually reading the words or is there some sort of weird forum translator I'm not party to that changes the words you typed but don't show you the changes.

I also find people will lump you in with the politics they think you share. Personally I have equal disillusion with both sides of the main parties and various of the other small groups but because I will speak up when things seem unjustified or unbalanced to me, and I'm pro Brexit, people think I'm on the right, although I could argue that a true socialist should be Brexit all the way. It seems to me that most people in politics are an insincere bunch of crooks. It's funny though if I say something nice or fair about May or the government I'm considered a raging Tory yet everyone totally missed my saying Corbyn came over well on the One Show the other day. :shrug: The forum gets more and more like the twilight zone every time I look in.

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9329696)

Your posts suggest to me that you think very much like i do.Except instead of a raging Tory i'm lumped into the 'fence sitter' camp:laugh:
That may actually be true however as i have slagged Corbyn and Abbott off no end but am voting Labour:laugh:
Tbh i am genuinely confused with left/right/centre.I'm not on either side.Strongly anti lefty liberal but agree with nationalisation but even more strongly anti Tory.

It's fecking confusing.I'm genuinely lost.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9329694)

At whom, prithee?

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9329701)

No...us the forum, acting like know alls arguing all the time.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9330145)

I dislike the presumption those who find the sometimes OTT right wing voices distasteful just haven't considered where they are coming from :/

When you consider the left portion of the forum are lumped as the 'PC brigade' it's a bit rich to suggest that imo.

As said some DO cross the line, it's felt that on here as well as nationally that is becoming increasingly acceptable.
As a left wing voice of the forum I make no apologies for speaking as I find regarding the tone of certain threads by certain members.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9330200)

Hey you can say what you like, if it highlights your prejudice and I comment on that you can own it or don't, that's your issue.

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 9329443)

At the end of the day, some people are just speaking sense and from the heart, about our current predicament.

Its people's opinions. This is a forum, by definition, a discussion of opinions. Just because you hypersensitively perceive them to be racist doesn't mean they are.

Some people don't bury their heads in the sand, and they should not be accused of evil intent for not doing so.

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9330861)

I use another forum group where the left have their own group and discuss left wing politics and the right have their own group and discuss right wing politics. Sometimes the left will wander into the right wing group and visa versa and that's when things get heated but when it all gets too much, they can return to their own group and get their sense of belonging back.

This is a very small forum group and so its probably not possible and anyway, I think a lot of people only come here because they enjoy an argument. I often think, this place isn't a healthy or life realistic environment. People do say things online that they would only say in a hushed voice with a like minded person, if they were out in say, Costa coffee. I mean, if I heard someone on the tube speaking like some of the people on here sometimes speak, I'd be nailing their bottom lip to the floor and I'm not even a violent person.

I'm not really sure why I come here. I mean, I've tried to leave once or twice but I always end up coming back. Perhaps I thrive on the frustration hehe!

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9330861)

I'm not really sure why I come here.

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9330861)

I use another forum group where the left have their own group and discuss left wing politics and the right have their own group and discuss right wing politics. Sometimes the left will wander into the right wing group and visa versa and that's when things get heated but when it all gets too much, they can return to their own group and get their sense of belonging back.

This is a very small forum group and so its probably not possible and anyway, I think a lot of people only come here because they enjoy an argument. I often think, this place isn't a healthy or life realistic environment. People do say things online that they would only say in a hushed voice with a like minded person, if they were out in say, Costa coffee. I mean, if I heard someone on the tube speaking like some of the people on here sometimes speak, I'd be nailing their bottom lip to the floor and I'm not even a violent person.

I'm not really sure why I come here. I mean, I've tried to leave once or twice but I always end up coming back. Perhaps I thrive on the frustration hehe!

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9331065)

That forum sounds like fun.Kind of small skirmish attacks into the opposite camp instead of all out war.What do the centrists do though?

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9331065)

That forum sounds like fun.Kind of small skirmish attacks into the opposite camp instead of all out war.What do the centrists do though?

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9331071)

They have to make do with sitting in the lobby?

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9329538)

...:love:..I recall reading many articles after the unthinkable happened of Donald Trump being elected..?...and the thing that came across more than anything else was how 'invisible' many had felt in their fears and concerns and in their problems and how in-listened to they felt they were...that I think is a very 'dangerous world' to live in ....just look where it's all leading atm for the whole human race, how much it's contributing....