She was one of my favourite characters up until Season 3, they totally ruined her in that one

If this is the case, I could really see Morales popping up, although I dont think the general audience cares enough about him/even know who he is? So maybe we could see a bigger character (with plenty of characters' backstories a mystery, it really could be anyone)

oh wow :( she got sold out

indeed :clap1: :love:

I don't see how that's Laurie Holden's fault tbh, Andrea was written a different way to how she is in the comics, even before she took a complete detour by going off on her own to Woodbury. It's just a shame that they knew Andrea was the group's marksman, and she made her one of the worst shots.... without even developing her aim and skills

That being said, I'm pretty content with the Atlanta Four we have left (although Glenn should be alive instead of beaten dead horse Daryl... Glenn served more purpose last season than Daryl did ffs stop keeping him alive for fan service)

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Sums up Daryl's place in the show perfectly.

It does but, allegedly, it's believed that his fan power is so great that killing him off could actually drop viewership to the extent that they'd be at risk of cancellation. So it's just not going to happen... Not until Reedus' contract is up and he doesn't want to renew. Even then I think they'd give him a soft exit to keep the possibility of a return open (which would upset stans less).

But what do his fans actually like about him? I'm generally curious, I just don't see how people can like post season 3 Daryl and I never see any good arguments for why he's still relevant to the story.

Glenn's way better and had so much more potential with his story, especially when we were promised a 'dark Glenn', which I could only imagine is him killing people unwillingly and visibly uncomfortable with the situation. ALSO Glenn's death in the comics had more meaning with him being the one to "take one for the team" and him being the pure innocence and voice of reason which was tainted by Glenn making his first kill and that never being shown to affect him again. Also why the **** was 90% of Glenn's screentime in 6B just foreshadowing his death? He was obviously going to die and there was no reward in the prediction and despite how predictable it was it was STILL just put in for shock factor. AND it took away from Abraham's brutal yet underplayed death. I think Steven wanted Glenn's comic death anyway but it's still annoying that they knew he would be killed off for over a season and did NOTHING with his character. they literally wrote him out for 4 episodes AGAIN for shock factor. They ****ed Glenn up bad man while Daryl just gets loved for breathing smh less popular and quite a fair number of people quit because of his death, so god knows how ratings will change when Daryl's gone

He was great in the first 3 seasons but come season 4 what did he actually do? Nothing note-worthy in 4A, and 4B was just building up to Beth's "death" (I'm #teamdefiance) and trying to make us feel for Daryl (it didn't even develop his character) and it completely overshadowed Maggie losing the only 'family' she had left (I'm not counting Glenn, and I was kinda pissed off Maggie didn't even actively look for Beth and only asked about her once in 5A).
Then the same happened with Denise (still a bull**** death made 100x worse by turning it into a Daryl issue which indirectly caused Michonne, Glenn and Rosita captured) and then half the time we saw any mourning for Glenn, it was Daryl feeling ****ty for trying to take down Negan... like okay, we get it, he's a broken soul in an apocalypse!! who ****ing isn't

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Andrea was my favourite female character and they messed it up.
I hated what they did to her in S3, I was looking forward to her story

They told the actress she was there until s8 at least and then killed her off

The thing is though, many fans don't judge their favourites season to season, so basically if they liked him in S1-S3 they're unlikely to stop just because his storyline has dried up. He was an interesting character initially... A pariah in the real world who found his place in the apocalypse... But that arc completed years ago and for several seasons he's more or less been "muscle" - one of their top zombie slayers and not much else character wise. That said, they sort of do need these "zombie ninja" characters to progress the threats like they have (I.e. Walkers are no longer a major threat, they consider them pests more than anything).

You also have a bit of "Chloe Sullivan syndrome" going on with Daryl which means the writers favor him a bit. Basically, like Daryl, Chloe was an original character created by the shows writers and placed in a world full of characters established in the source material. So, even when she got really (REALLY) irritating, they still massively over-used her and found ways to work her into the bones of every season, right until the end. Because that character was "theirs", not DC comics. Daryl IMO gets similar from the TWD guys, because he's not a Kirkman character.

Good point, I just found it difficult understanding since Daryl has went from one of my favourites to being probably my least favourite character in TWD (besides maybe Gregory, but we're meant to hate him), and I assumed people would just follow the logic of "they've not utilised his character, so why should we support him over characters getting real story and development?" I think the Alexandrians proven that they are more than capable of being 'zombie ninjas' after No Way Out though, which I thought would be enough reason to finish off Daryl (especially since, as you said, he's just become the group's top zombie slayer).

Great analogy, actually. Best way I've seen Daryl described :clap1:

I'll never get why they ****ed her over? I found this quote from Kirkman:
I'll never understand what great 'sacrifice' she tried to make and it's a tad annoying when most of the Survivor's deaths have been 'sacrifices' for the greater good of the group (see T-Dog, they tried to make Abraham's death a 'sacrifice', Merle's (who literally sacrifices himself for the group a few episodes before she died... what was the point in repeating that trope?!), Sasha's), fair enough she was one of the early victims of a repetitive trope, but she was the 3rd character that season to die 'sacrificing herself' for the group... and it wasn't much of a sacrifice or meaningful death?

That said, I do prefer Michonne with Rick (and Michonne in general, but Michonne could've easily ended up with Rick over Andrea anyway if that was their plan) and I appreciate that Michonne's branching out and building up her sniper skills, so it's nice her character wasn't too wasted? That said, I'm just so confused as to why they killed her off if they had big plans for her to go far, because her reason for dying was bull****

Watched just about 3 seasons of this. And an episode here and there.

Why is Niamh on the ban list?

I am so ready for this first episode tonight :hee:

Loved last night's episode, but i think

also liked the remembrance of 2 behind the scenes workers who had died, very emotional at the end of the ep, with the end titles

I had to watch this and the Talking Dead last night

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i really hate the Michonne and Rick love scenes :yuk: she's so much better than being with him

First Episode :

I thought the episode was pretty weak for an opener. The action wasn't that great apart from Daryl shooting the containers on his bike.

Negan is still just annoying to me rather than menacing too

Episode 1:

The uncensored Negan in the season 6 finale is quite terrifying. I didn't realise how much the 'f-bomb' made the difference. ( -flashbacks to when they changed "they're ****ing with the wrong people" to "they're screwing with the wrong people!!"- )
Now he just seems more like a guy who's meant to be funny but he's just... not?

Lilbro you literally stan the same characters I do haha

Great minds think alike :clap1:

I always feel alone when I say I stan Tara :( She always seemed like the most inoffensive and one of the nicest (if not the nicest with Glenn and Heath gone, and excluding Gabriel) while also being entertaining

I think I have a bad case of TiBB syndrome, it feels like most of my faves of TWD have been females... I adored Daryl until season 4, and I loved Abraham and Glenn but look how that turned out

TiBB syndrome Lilbro :laugh:

"Y'all got to realise sumthin'... Negan... He ain't just some regular character... He's like meee or Coooral or Daaayryl. He's got the plot armour." - Rick, S08E01

... By which I mean, if they continue to follow the graphic novels, Negan himself still has a role to play in future storylines even after the Saviours are dead and buried.

Then again they could do it better than they do, like have him actually keep himself out of harms way for the mostpart (he could have shouted / spoken to them from behind a barricade, just like they were, would actually have been quite effective imagery) instead of him constantly being in situations where someone could clearly stab / shoot / whack him with something but just... Don't do it...