I believe the story is that everyone is allowed to say whatever they want, whenever they want, except Tibb members who want to call them racist or bigoted (not allowed :nono: never never)

I disagree. These people support what Nazi Germany did. They support the gassing and murdering of millions and they don't wear the swastika because it represents luck, success, and prosperity but because Hitler is their hero.

The anti-Nazi supporters (and you don't have to be left to be that) are disgusted with such people. Some take that disgust too far but tell me this, should we just ignore this growing trend in racism? should we allow them to grow and flourish?

Of course, why not? I'd rather know what these people are saying and thinking.

What power do they have? none. They're put in power by the people, in a democracy. So we listen to what they say, and decide weather we accept it or not, that's how it works.

Your personal feelings don't matter to other people, it's not up to you to decide who has the right to speak.

We have laws to deal with any violence.

Amen to that brother.

You know, I actually feel quite sorry for racists. In nearly all cases, they’ve grown up with it. They’ve been conditioned to hate often from an early age.
We need to re-educate these people and have them understand that human variation is a good thing and that race is a construct… its not real. You can’t look at the DNA of anyone and say, that person is this race because races don’t exist.

Racism is tribal and yet, scientifically speaking, there is only one race… the human race.

The question is, how do we get that message across to our fellow hateful homosapiens ?

Everyone hates something.

What do you think Trump has got since the day he decided to run for President? Hate, none stop. Why is that hate acceptable?

Why not? Plenty of other groups do. Just don't give them the publicity. :shrug:

Do you apply that to everyone I wonder. It might be good to start with religion as hate between religions is often the worse.

PC is pretty tribal too.

Double standards. Everyone thinks they know best. The human condition.

Anyone who thinks the world will live in peace and harmony if only they could 'educate ' them. Beyond pompous.

If you choose to run a country, expect hatred from the opposition. If you choose to be controversial in the way you run that country, expect hate from the majority.

You're right, I hate artichokes and I hate feeling like I've had one too many but I think that's a little different to all out hatred against someone you don't know.

What we do with regard racism is integrate children. I went to a school where we were a mix of colours and I grew up not really seeing colour, just people. I just do not look at someone based on what colour their skin is. In fact the only time I do notice the colour of someone's skin is when you notice how pretty a dark skin colour can be. I'm pretty pale and can appreciate the beauty of a warm rich colour. Segregation and communities who isolate or are isolated is where resentment and difference start.

I have to say I'm pretty disgusted by some of the accusations towards other members about Nazis in this thread. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Why would I need to start with religion when what I said was on topic?

Why is there so much hate between religions?
Why is there so much hate in the school playground?
Why do so many people hate child or animal abusers?
Why do so many employees hate their employer?

We could have all these topics if you like but right now we are discussing prejudice against people of color.

Color me confused?

Accusations toward other members.

Maybe because hatred in religion is often based on race and sex.

Oh, well I haven't done that, though its sorely tempting.

And they always get away with it. If others with different views made the same kind of abhorrent allegations there would have been bans by now. Seems we are all supposed to be too stupid to notice that. :shrug:

What should people do to protest against fascists and neo nazis?

Give me one thing that can be done that would show the depth of feeling that would counter that venom, waving flowers? placards?

People are looking towards the establishment and what are they doing....Nothing, turning a blind eye to the hate filled rabble because the sad fact is it's state sanctioned.

It's not just a few idiots having a rant, it's an uprising. Nobody deserves any blame for railing against it. If you can't see that this is what legions of people fought and died to protect us from having to experience again then I pity you. You are not just blinkered but blind.

Those that died did so because they loved their country and their way of life. They were trying to protect us all from the control of a mass murderer who had committed the genocide of millions.

Please enlighten me as to how that compares to today. Who exactly do you see as the next Hitler? Could you be over-reacting a bit there. I find you using their brave sacrifice as a weapon to try to control the thoughts of others quite disrespectful.

Personally I see much more controlling forces than a few extreme right wing thugs.

The extremes on both sides are to blame for violence over the past few years. It wasn't right wingers who smashed up Berkely because they didn't want someone to give a talk, and BLM (who frequently destroy high streets) aren't right wing.

Do you mean the statement of fact that some people are expressing sympathies, however small, towards those with white supremacist / Nazi tendencies...

...which was disingenuously represented by those who it was aimed at as "calling them Nazis", most likely in an attempt to manipulate a warning/ban, when it was, in fact, not that, but exactly as described above?

:think:

There are Nazi / supremacist sympathies expressed in this thread. If that makes people uncomfortable, then they should probably stop doing it.

It's frustrating.

Because whilst there are instances of 'the left' or left-leaning individuals punching and attacking people at EDL rallies or this Charlottesville event or Trump rallies or Westboro Baptists picketing things, the number of times they've resulted in fatalities and the number of times anything of the sort has even happened is currently far outnumbered by the murders and assaults committed by those on the right.

As usual, the right-wing are turning this into a "we're all as bad as each other" thing because their Daddy has said it and he's President, but the fact of the matter is white supremacy and racist attacks are far worse and heinous than being smacked for being a nazi.

However, to offer a middle ground :laugh: there is something quite disgusting and nauseating and "playground bully" about the number of people who'll share and retweet and like videos of the right being punched on social media. There's quite a strong and reliable chunk of people I follow getting off on that sort of thing and it's just sad and counter-productive. What's the point of condemning violence and hate if you're just laughing at the assault of idiots at the same time?

But as I say, extremism and terrorism is currently a far more right-wing problem than any other demographic. The stats don't lie.

I can't get my head around the fact that these idiots can tool themselves up and arm themselves to go on a march, and not be breaking the law.
So much for the land of the free.:nono:

Yes, there's plenty of cave drawings of cavemen telling each other to check their privilege scattered throughout the world.

I can think of at least 3