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Marsh. 27-01-2018 11:16 PM

Nobody's said she can't have opinions. They're commenting on her opinions, as they have a right too.

Freedom of speech is a two way ****ing street.

Marsh. 27-01-2018 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 9828150)
I am surrounded by a lot of middle class girls that wear too much make up and look cheap...and when I say cheap, I mean tacky and I'm not comparing them to any working class people.

Then you're using the wrong word.

rusticgal 27-01-2018 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9828169)
Then you're using the wrong word.

Cheap/tacky/chavvy=same thing. IMO.

Jack_ 27-01-2018 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 9828150)
I am surrounded by a lot of middle class girls that wear too much make up and look cheap...and when I say cheap, I mean tacky and I'm not comparing them to any working class people.

Why are women 'cheap' and 'tacky' for wearing 'too much' make up though? I always find it so disheartening when women want to denigrate other women like that, just for merely choosing to look and dress how they feel comfortable.

The word 'chav' was created to almost exclusively chastise working class people and imply that their social status is a result of their own moral failings rather than structural and social inequality, it is a convenient caricature that has been peddled by the media for well over a decade and ingrained it within most people's lexicon. Whether you or others use it to describe middle class people is neither here nor there, because it's meaning relates to a negative archetype of a working class person

Marsh. 27-01-2018 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 9828175)
Cheap/tacky/chavvy=same thing. IMO.

It's not though. It's just been explained to you what the word means. You were mistaken.

Jase. 27-01-2018 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9828176)
Why are women 'cheap' and 'tacky' for wearing 'too much' make up though? I always find it so disheartening when women want to denigrate other women like that, just for merely choosing to look and dress how they feel comfortable.

:clap1: It's gross.

Underscore 27-01-2018 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9828176)
Why are women 'cheap' and 'tacky' for wearing 'too much' make up though? I always find it so disheartening when women want to denigrate other women like that, just for merely choosing to look and dress how they feel comfortable.

The word 'chav' was created to almost exclusively chastise working class people and imply that their social status is a result of their own moral failings rather than structural and social inequality, it is a convenient caricature that has been peddled by the media for well over a decade and ingrained it within most people's lexicon. Whether you or others use it to describe middle class people is neither here nor there, because it's meaning relates to a negative archetype of a working class person

.

rusticgal 27-01-2018 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ja$e (Post 9828180)
:clap1: It's gross.

It's my opinion..call it what you like..:shrug:

Tom4784 27-01-2018 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9828153)
She’s an old woman - she isn’t supposed to have opinions - she should be seen and not heard - apparently. Good on her for sticking two fingers up at such ageism.

Where has anyone said she isn't entitled to her views? Can you point that out to me?

empire 27-01-2018 11:47 PM

I think ann has a point, he dresses up as a person who is sort of chav like and very brassy, before he went in, he wore no under wear and exposed his bits to the country, and there could be children watching this too, so where is the level of professionalism, and he and india where the same, they wanted constant attention but shane wants to shock people so badly and he takes it too far, he at times has tried to annoy ann and its a tactic to get her to say something really offensive to him, its like adding ammo to his belt, but he has underestimated her because she is a very strong minded type of lady, she worked in a very male dominated environment and the men ended up respecting her, so never underestimate a battleaxe like ann.

Tom4784 27-01-2018 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by empire (Post 9828224)
I think ann has a point, he dresses up as a person who is sort of chav like and very brassy, before he went in, he wore no under wear and exposed his bits to the country, and there could be children watching this too, so where is the level of professionalism, and he and india where the same, they wanted constant attention but shane wants to shock people so badly and he takes it too far, he at times has tried to annoy ann and its a tactic to get her to say something really offensive to him, its like adding ammo to his belt, but he has underestimated her because she is a very strong minded type of lady, she worked in a very male dominated environment and the men ended up respecting her, so never underestimate a battleaxe like ann.

If parents let their children watch a show where someone from Geordie Shore gave someone from TOWIE a blowjob in the shower for all to see then you can't really use the Helen Lovejoy defense.

Chav is not a word that really applies to Courtney at all.

poppsywoppsy 27-01-2018 11:56 PM

I think Shane J does go out of his way to antagonize Ann, he certainly did tonight and revelled in it.

She only rolls her eyes for goodness sake, how petty they can't handle something as simple as that.


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