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Fetch The Bolt Cutters 30-01-2018 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 9836076)
Try looking the word heterophobic in the dictionary

Bet you won't copy it word for word and write what it says on here

You have really not helped by showing such a lack of intellect to write such a ridiculous statement. It just shows how little you understand.
it isn’t in the dictionary because straighties made it up! they just wanted their own version of homophobia because they’re greedy and entitled

it’s literally “they have homophobia? then WE SHOULD HAVE HETEROPHOBIA”

a “they have black history month but we don’t have white history month” tea

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d78...cnq8o1_500.gif

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 30-01-2018 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Marches (Post 9836080)
‘but majorities can’t be discriminated against’ and ‘only men rape’
tea!

finally someone talking sense

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d78...cnq8o1_500.gif

Marches 30-01-2018 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sullen Girl (Post 9836173)
it isn’t in the dictionary because straighties made it up! they just wanted their own version of homophobia because they’re greedy and entitled

it’s literally “they have homophobia? then WE SHOULD HAVE HETEROPHOBIA”

a “they have black history month but we don’t have white history month” tea

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d78...cnq8o1_500.gif
It’s not about having fking words. Just bc ur community is a minority doesn’t mean the majority can’t suffer discrimination what backwards logic

Bones 30-01-2018 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sullen Girl (Post 9833808)
i don’t like him all that much tbh but he must win, for the gays!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d78...cnq8o1_500.gif
Nah, get him out. And Malika.

poppsywoppsy 30-01-2018 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sullen Girl (Post 9836173)
it isn’t in the dictionary because straighties made it up! they just wanted their own version of homophobia because they’re greedy and entitled

it’s literally “they have homophobia? then WE SHOULD HAVE HETEROPHOBIA”

a “they have black history month but we don’t have white history month” tea

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d78...cnq8o1_500.gif
You cannot just make things up, nobody can, but nice try.

Miranda123 30-01-2018 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Sullen Girl (Post 9833808)
i don’t like him all that much tbh but he must win, for the gays!

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f9000d78...cnq8o1_500.gif
several of my friends are gay, but oddly, they actually talk about other subjects, like movies, music, clothes, holidays etc

Shane J is a one trick pony

Im Gay, Im Gay, Im Gay, oh by the way, did you know Im gay

He doesnt seem to be able to handle the fact that nobody gives a ****, if he is gay or not, they wanted to talk to him, not the Gay spokesman of the world

If he ever gets the f..k over himself, he might be a fairly nice guy, but right now, he just needs to understand that life does not revolve around him, not sure he can deal with that though

Hope he goes tonight, really hoping

Tom4784 30-01-2018 02:42 PM
Homosexuality is fine, just as long as you're quiet about it!

Marches 30-01-2018 02:44 PM
Homophobia is less of an issue if homosexuality were ignored rather than celebrated. When you champion something like sexuality said people feel entitled, and stop wanting equal treatment but special treatment.

Tom4784 30-01-2018 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Marches (Post 9836358)
Homophobia is less of an issue if homosexuality were ignored rather than celebrated. When you champion something like sexuality said people feel entitled, and stop wanting equal treatment but special treatment.
Can you provide an example of this?

Marches 30-01-2018 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9836367)
Can you provide an example of this?
Shane Jenek

Look how entitled he is

Paula D 30-01-2018 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9836356)
Homosexuality is fine, just as long as you're quiet about it!

Sorry Dezzy but that's BS. The vast majority of people in this world are quiet about their sexuality.

We don't go round all day talking about our sexuality.

It's not the number 1 defining factor of someone's personality and if you genuinely think it is then it's a little scary.

Tom4784 30-01-2018 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Marches (Post 9836370)
Shane Jenek

Look how entitled he is
How is he entitled? Explain it to me.

Marches 30-01-2018 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9836375)
How is he entitled? Explain it to me.
Demanding tolerance from others then when things don’t go his way he resorts to bullying

Paula D 30-01-2018 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9836367)
Can you provide an example of this?
I'll give you an example, I've asked a number of times now what rights exactly do gay people in the UK not have and no-one has answered.

I can only take from that there are not rights that they don't have so why are they constantly screaming gay rights?

Tom4784 30-01-2018 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Paula D (Post 9836373)
Sorry Dezzy but that's BS. The vast majority of people in this world are quiet about their sexuality.

We don't go round all day talking about our sexuality.

It's not the number 1 defining factor of someone's personality and if you genuinely think it is then it's a little scary.
You don't feel the need to talk about your sexuality because heterosexuality is universally accepted, no heterosexual person has ever had to fight for equal rights as a heterosexual. The problem here is you can't empathise with circumstances outside of your own.

You think gay people don't need to talk about their sexuality because you don't have to as a heterosexual but the thing is, if an LGBT person stays quiet about the injustices they face then those injustices keep happening. Your discomfort doesn't really matter much when you match it against raising awareness of issues that plague the gay community.

Paula D 30-01-2018 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9836393)
You don't feel the need to talk about your sexuality because heterosexuality is universally accepted, no heterosexual person has ever had to fight for equal rights as a heterosexual. The problem here is you can't empathise with circumstances outside of your own.

You think gay people don't need to talk about their sexuality because you don't have to as a heterosexual but the thing is, if an LGBT person stays quiet about the injustices they face then those injustices keep happening. Your discomfort doesn't really matter much when you match it against raising awareness of issues that plague the gay community.
How do you know what my sexuality is?

And for that matter how do you know what I think?

Also what are all these injustices you speak of? I've asked for examples about 10 times now, no-one has given me any.

poppsywoppsy 30-01-2018 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Paula D (Post 9836383)
I'll give you an example, I've asked a number of times now what rights exactly do gay people in the UK not have and no-one has answered.

I can only take from that there are not rights that they don't have so why are they constantly screaming gay rights?
This takes me back to my college days where an offender from the local jail was on day release on our course.

He screamed human rights at us constantly as if it was applicable only to him.

My point is, we all have rights, if they conflict, work it out, don't gang up, don't harass and work together. If it is not possible, don't drag up old issues, hear each other, draw a line under them and move forward.

Marches 30-01-2018 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9836393)
You don't feel the need to talk about your sexuality because heterosexuality is universally accepted, no heterosexual person has ever had to fight for equal rights as a heterosexual. The problem here is you can't empathise with circumstances outside of your own.

You think gay people don't need to talk about their sexuality because you don't have to as a heterosexual but the thing is, if an LGBT person stays quiet about the injustices they face then those injustices keep happening. Your discomfort doesn't really matter much when you match it against raising awareness of issues that plague the gay community.
But first gay people aren’t experiencing like mass discrimination. The discrimination they are experiencing is bad but I feel the best way to combat it is to have NORMAL gay people show that they are more than their sexuality on tv and other media. It normalises it and makes people more comfortable around them. People like Shane j are alienating the gay community in a way, making them look like attention seekers.

Tom4784 30-01-2018 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Marches (Post 9836380)
Demanding tolerance from others then when things don’t go his way he resorts to bullying
Can you provide an example of Shane J demanding tolerance from others?

Tom4784 30-01-2018 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Marches (Post 9836400)
But first gay people aren’t experiencing like mass discrimination. The discrimination they are experiencing is bad but I feel the best way to combat it is to have NORMAL gay people show that they are more than their sexuality on tv and other media. It normalises it and makes people more comfortable around them. People like Shane j are alienating the gay community in a way, making them look like attention seekers.
How do you know what discrimination a gay person faces on a regular basis? Unless you're part of the LGBT yourself then you can't really know.

As for the rest of your post, you're basically saying what I mocked in that 'Gay people are okay, just be quiet about it' post. Being gay is only okay if you can pass for normal, being gay is only okay if you don't consider it a massive part of who you are, being gay is only okay if the gays minimise their gayness as to not offend others.

Gay people don't make themselves look like attention seekers for embracing their sexuality, that's just what people who are uncomfortable with gay people being comfortable with who they are think.

Tom4784 30-01-2018 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 9836399)
This takes me back to my college days where an offender from the local jail was on day release on our course.

He screamed human rights at us constantly as if it was applicable only to him.

My point is, we all have rights, if they conflict, work it out, don't gang up, don't harass and work together. If it is not possible, don't drag up old issues, hear each other, draw a line under them and move forward.
Equating criminals with gay people, are we?

Ant. 30-01-2018 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Paula D (Post 9836383)
I'll give you an example, I've asked a number of times now what rights exactly do gay people in the UK not have and no-one has answered.

I can only take from that there are not rights that they don't have so why are they constantly screaming gay rights?
I mean, shockingly, the UK is not representative of the entire world, and even the likes of the USA doesn't have equal rights for LGBT people
https://www.ranker.com/list/8-things...an_t-do/cdu827 (a tad outdated given the marriage one)
http://wyomingequality.org/half-of-s...-equal-rights/

Also given Shane J is from Australia, his talk of LGBT rights clearly stems from his upbringing in Australia, which is less progressive than the UK. I don't think he has ever said "UK should have equal rights for LGBT people but not Australia!!!". In fact, I've never heard him specifically mention the UK?
https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/sexual...ghts-australia
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The Northern Territory has not yet legislated to allow same-sex couples to adopt.

South Australia is yet to overturn the gay panic defence.

Transgender people are unable to change the sex listed on their birth certificate without medical intervention, except in the ACT and South Australia.

Married transgender people must divorce their partners to transition on official documents.

Men who have had sex with men in the previous 12 months are barred from donating blood.

Religious schools and hospitals are exempted from LGBT anti-discrimination laws in Australia.
Also, just because LGBT people have equal rights (as far as I'm aware) in the UK, doesn't mean that they're exactly equal... they're still subject to discrimination, and Shane J has spoken out about treating LGBT people equally, so it's not as if this concept isn't one Shane J hasn't advocated for

So tl;dr, they're 'constantly screaming' gay rights because in places like Australia and the USA, there are still laws against LGBT people, and in other places gay people can be killed for being gay

Paula D 30-01-2018 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Lilbro (Post 9836421)
I mean, shockingly, the UK is not representative of the entire world, and even the likes of the USA doesn't have equal rights for LGBT people
https://www.ranker.com/list/8-things...an_t-do/cdu827 (a tad outdated given the marriage one)
http://wyomingequality.org/half-of-s...-equal-rights/

Also given Shane J is from Australia, his talk of LGBT rights clearly stems from his upbringing in Australia, which is less progressive than the UK. I don't think he has ever said "UK should have equal rights for LGBT people but not Australia!!!". In fact, I've never heard him specifically mention the UK?
https://www.sbs.com.au/topics/sexual...ghts-australia


Also, just because LGBT people have equal rights (as far as I'm aware) in the UK, doesn't mean that they're exactly equal... they're still subject to discrimination, and Shane J has spoken out about treating LGBT people equally, so it's not as if this concept isn't one Shane J hasn't advocated for

So tl;dr, they're 'constantly screaming' gay rights because in places like Australia and the USA, there are still laws against LGBT people, and in other places gay people can be killed for being gay
The reason I mentioned UK is because he's on a UK show with a UK audience talking about a UK politician.

Not going to change the world love, whatever way you look at it.

Tom4784 30-01-2018 03:13 PM
You seem intent on shutting down any talks of gay rights.

Ant. 30-01-2018 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Paula D (Post 9836439)
The reason I mentioned UK is because he's on a UK show with a UK audience talking about a UK politician.

Not going to change the world love, whatever way you look at it.
I don't see how being on a UK show and having a UK audience means that he can't talk about LGBT rights elsewhere...? :shrug:
As for 'talking about a UK politician', he's saying that she voted against a lot of LGBT laws, which is true. Do I agree with how he tried to turn Amanda against Ann? Not particularly, and yes Ann didn't end up having her way in the end, but I'm pretty sure he recognises that they were all passed, and if he didn't Amanda told him they were

... I don't think Shane J is trying to change the world? He's just bringing up issues and making people realise LGBT people aren't equal in the world


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