Courtney never said Ann wiped the floor with her, it’s pure conjecture

And you took that and made up a discussion that we didn't see and didn't know it happened where Ann apparently wiped the floor with him in a reasoned manner.

So, which show did you watch or were you hallucinating?

I merely queried why we haven't seen any of the discussions, and posed a reason for it, I didn't claim anything as fact, but don't let that get in the way of you trying to have the last word

This place is getting worse by the day. It’s distressing to think there are people on the streets of Britain with such wackards ways of thinking.

How many years has it been since we had our first gay winner? Our first trans winner? You would think people might have got their head around it by now. But no. We are still getting post after post like this.. Thinly veiled hatred.

This is why Shane getting on his soap box once in a while is certainly still needed.

"Merely queried" which resulted in Saint Ann again and the dismissal of her problematic views.

Responding to someone who quoted me is trying to get the last word, but you're not?

Oh, please.

I have a feeling those housemates wouldn’t win if their series aired in 2018. The audience of this show has clearly changed.

hit a nerve did I, you know you keep going like a duracell bunny even when you have nothing to say

We were discussing BB, Ann and Shane and you've resorted to discussing me instead.

Says more about your lack of actual input to the discussion than mine.

Enjoy your evening.

You had nothing to say there yet you're still going

Energizer who?

I think you’re right. Things seem to have gotten worse rather than better.

I couldn't agree more. It's unbelievable and very sad.

I think you are right there.

I understand why you think this but no one gets a free pass except that. awful Helen Wood.

Did not Julien Clary win?

The thing is for me, each housemate goes in as an individual and their journey in the house is down to their personality, popularity and behaviour during their stay.

Why would you want anyone's sexuality to be a defining reason for winning or that they only win because they are gay.

No, if they are good enough to get through to the final, forget sexual orientation, vote for your own favourite, then it will be fair.

Nobody is saying people should win because they are gay.

Oh yes. Imagine that. Boys wearing dresses. What has society become?

I don't think the defining reason for anyone winning should be their sexuality. I just don't understand the hatred that seems to be directed at a housemate who is gay. It seems extreme to me, and not something I would expect in this day and age.

I think it depends really . Kids have fun and dress up all the time.
But we live in a world where if a boy dresses a girl people now automatically assume he wants to be a girl , or that he has issues.

I remember at school even when a boy said pink was his favorite colour he'd get laughed at and mocked, I know things have changed now .

But now I think people get the wrong idea about things , there's some people that still misunderstand India & Courtney .

I don't hate him, I like him a lot of the time, they were having a nice time, second last night, Wayne asked him to give it a rest, it isn't anything we haven't heard before, It looked like even lWayne had enough, if he thinks a 14 year old boy is going to listen to Ann Widdicome he is pretty deluded

Well that's rich...you shut me down a couple of years ago for supporting my fave that wasn't yours... I've always been decent on here.
Practice what you preach.

:joker:

Exactly. People want the vapid ken doll to win. I thought big brother was a judge of endurance and character, two things he lacks :(

Ken doll?

He's more a Barbie imo.

I'm glad you don't hate him - nobody is perfect and every individual behaves in a way others don't agree with at times, but that doesn't mean they deserve hate. I just seem to be seeing a lot of hatred on here at the moment, and it deters me from taking part in discussions.

I don't think he necessarily just meant Ann but views like hers in general. A 14 year old boy struggling with his sexuality is going to make decisions on whether or not he can be himself by listening to the views of people he encounters, whether in person or through the media, and could feel reluctant to be himself if he hears views like Ann's.

I think all Shane was saying is that those sort of views could have a detrimental impact on a young gay person's life, and in my opinion he's not wrong in that as it's a very valid point.

I don't think it's funny :bored:, I'm pretty sure nobody wants to get shut down when we're all here to express ourselves surely ? .

Nobody's been shut down.

I found it funny that something minor from two years ago was being dragged up in a discussion thread on a Big Brother forum. That's bloody hilarious.