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Withano 08-02-2018 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by y.winter (Post 9857167)
That's really stretching what I said, especially rephrasing and putting it in block letters to make it like some sort of a hysterical seizure.

Not really, originally everybody after the T in LGBT were
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People with too much time on the internet looking to label every part of their personality and overall busy with turning themselves into a cluster of nouns instead of actually doing something useful and being a human being who happens to love certain things.
then you went on to say how the extra letters are defeating the point, when actually none of what you said is true. People define the sexuality, including you and I, and including asexual and pansexual people. They've been put in an acronym and thats ok. They're not just internet dwelling entities looking to label themselves in every way possible.

Tom4784 08-02-2018 09:05 PM

I'm quite offended that my sexuality is considered on the same level as having a kink and polygamy.

I'll just stick to LGBT....

Firewire 08-02-2018 09:08 PM

https://www.independent.ie/incoming/...de%20diary.jpg

when someone questions your polyamory

y.winter 08-02-2018 09:10 PM

Oh dear, I was talking about the chase after making LGBT into a never ending acronym. The subliminal suggestion that it's just pure lgbtphobia is just an exaggeration, as I didn't say any of it. People can be whoever they want and they're not less valid, yet that's not the point in what I said.

Jamie89 08-02-2018 09:32 PM

Thinking about the kink thing more, I wonder what the aim of it's inclusion is? Because with most/all of these things it's probably about bringing them more into the mainstream (rather than being about rights) I'd guess, but should kinks be mainstream? There's probably even a lot of sub categories with kinks so I'm not trying to say it's all the same, one of my friends (and his husband) are actually really into this stuff and have a 'kink room' and there's nothing wrong with it, but some of the stuff is definitely anti social, some of it's about causing pain, and including it in the LGBT thing is sort of putting it in a social arena, isn't it? When really it's about acts that you carry out in private. Unless I'm missing the point of it. (also if kinky were to become 'normal' then it would no longer be kinky :think: ) I also don't really like how it makes LGBT+ seem more about sex rather than being about sexuality/gender

Jessica. 08-02-2018 09:34 PM

Where is the D for Demisexual, I don't feel represented? :idc: When will the segregation end?

But seriously, I think LGBTQ+ has always been enough, I don't get why stuff always gets added on. I've seen so many variations of it.

Smithy 08-02-2018 09:36 PM

Fun fact LGBT initially stood for Lady Gaga, bears and twinks

Denver 08-02-2018 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ja$e (Post 9856822)
Somebody just referred to "LGBTQIAPK" on Twitter so I raced to Google.

Now I knew LGBTQ but is "IAPK" a new thing or..



Can somebody explain why being kinky is now included with being lesbian/gay/bi/trans/etc? :laugh2: I really don't get it.

50 Shades did that?

Firewire 08-02-2018 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 9857420)
Fun fact LGBT initially stood for Lady Gaga, bears and twinks

No it stands for lady gags broken thigh

Jamie89 08-02-2018 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 9857420)
Fun fact LGBT initially stood for Lady Gaga, bears and twinks

:laugh2:

Smithy 08-02-2018 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 9857424)
No it stands for lady gags broken thigh

It was her hip you flop

Firewire 08-02-2018 09:39 PM

There's no H in LGBT tho!

Smithy 08-02-2018 09:40 PM

Guess you shouldn’t have made the ****e joke then hen!!

RileyH 08-02-2018 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 9857424)
No it stands for lady gags broken thigh

:joker:

Jamie89 08-02-2018 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire (Post 9857430)
There's no H in LGBT tho!

Hypersexuality to be included in the next addition?

y.winter 08-02-2018 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 9857420)
Fun fact LGBT initially stood for Lady Gaga, bears and twinks

when will LGBTRW? Lesbians, Gays, Trans, Bi and Real Women
https://media1.tenor.com/images/6c88...e3bd/tenor.gif

Smithy 08-02-2018 09:42 PM

:bigsmile:

Leave the jokes to me girls you’re not doing anyone any favours

GoldHeart 08-02-2018 09:50 PM

So next it will be the whole alphabet LGBTACDEFHIJKMNOPQRSUVWXYZ :sleep:

bots 08-02-2018 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9857411)
Thinking about the kink thing more, I wonder what the aim of it's inclusion is? Because with most/all of these things it's probably about bringing them more into the mainstream (rather than being about rights) I'd guess, but should kinks be mainstream? There's probably even a lot of sub categories with kinks so I'm not trying to say it's all the same, one of my friends (and his husband) are actually really into this stuff and have a 'kink room' and there's nothing wrong with it, but some of the stuff is definitely anti social, some of it's about causing pain, and including it in the LGBT thing is sort of putting it in a social arena, isn't it? When really it's about acts that you carry out in private. Unless I'm missing the point of it. (also if kinky were to become 'normal' then it would no longer be kinky :think: ) I also don't really like how it makes LGBT+ seem more about sex rather than being about sexuality/gender

i think what they are trying to put forward is that kinky people are born kinky and its not a conscious choice that they have ... but doesn't everyone have a degree of kink in them to some extent..... it could be something as simple as liking leather, it doesn't need to be pain, bondage and humiliation :laugh:

Niamh. 09-02-2018 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9857411)
Thinking about the kink thing more, I wonder what the aim of it's inclusion is? Because with most/all of these things it's probably about bringing them more into the mainstream (rather than being about rights) I'd guess, but should kinks be mainstream? There's probably even a lot of sub categories with kinks so I'm not trying to say it's all the same, one of my friends (and his husband) are actually really into this stuff and have a 'kink room' and there's nothing wrong with it, but some of the stuff is definitely anti social, some of it's about causing pain, and including it in the LGBT thing is sort of putting it in a social arena, isn't it? When really it's about acts that you carry out in private. Unless I'm missing the point of it. (also if kinky were to become 'normal' then it would no longer be kinky :think: ) I also don't really like how it makes LGBT+ seem more about sex rather than being about sexuality/gender

Yeah was just coming in to say that aswell, what rights are people who are into kinky stuff looking for exactly? Why does the world need to acknowledge what type of sex they enjoy, seriously?

Marches 09-02-2018 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9857522)
i think what they are trying to put forward is that kinky people are born kinky and its not a conscious choice that they have ... but doesn't everyone have a degree of kink in them to some extent..... it could be something as simple as liking leather, it doesn't need to be pain, bondage and humiliation :laugh:

Where do we draw the line with this? What’s stopping these people from including pedophiles in the lgbt soup?

Vicky. 09-02-2018 06:22 PM

It is so wide now that it covers nearly all people on earth, which means realistically the whole thing is pointless. Asexual people, how the **** are they discriminated against? Noone is going to beat you in the street for NOT having sex. its just ridiculous really. And I mentioned on a thread recently about this 'Kink' push to be added, again thats stupid 'Kinky' people should be being 'kinky' behind closed doors, so noone would even know they were 'kinky' and if they are practicing their kinks in public or involving members of the public against their will then they are a bit sick and should not be expecting for their behavior to be considered 'normal' (I guess part of 'kink' could be having sex in public or something though...ugh). Look at all the stuff thats included under 'kink'..basically anything besides having sex with the lights off in missionary 24/7 :laugh:

https://www.glamour.com/story/a-to-z-kinks-and-fetishes

And as Niamh said last time this was brought up...age play is creepy as ****.

Everyone seems to want to tell the world about their fetishes. And I think its really wrong to be associating LGB people with simply having fetishes to be quite honest. I would add T on there, but many many of the group currently under the transgender umbrella ARE simply fetishists. So I would say that associating gay, lesbian, bi and transsexual (and intersex) people in with fetishists it pretty wrong. And transsexual needs to be transsexual again else transsexual people are lumped in with fetishists both for 'transgender' and the LGBTALPHABET.

People just want to jump on this to prove how apparently discriminated against they are, and its silly.

Also, so many of my gay friends find queer very offensive. It seems to be mainly the younger generation who have decided its an acceptable term.

Smithy 09-02-2018 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9858403)
It is so wide now that it covers nearly all people on earth, which means realistically the whole thing is pointless. Asexual people, how the **** are they discriminated against? Noone is going to beat you in the street for NOT having sex. its just ridiculous really. And I mentioned on a thread recently about this 'Kink' push to be added, again thats stupid 'Kinky' people should be being 'kinky' behind closed doors, so noone would even know they were 'kinky' and if they are practicing their kinks in public or involving members of the public against their will then they are a bit sick and should not be expecting for their behavior to be considered 'normal' (I guess part of 'kink' could be having sex in public or something though...ugh). Look at all the stuff thats included under 'kink'..basically anything besides having sex with the lights off in missionary 24/7 :laugh:

https://www.glamour.com/story/a-to-z-kinks-and-fetishes

And as Niamh said last time this was brought up...age play is creepy as ****.

Everyone seems to want to tell the world about their fetishes. And I think its really wrong to be associating LGB people with simply having fetishes to be quite honest. I would add T on there, but many many of the group currently under the transgender umbrella ARE simply fetishists. So I would say that associating gay, lesbian, bi and transsexual (and intersex) people in with fetishists it pretty wrong. And transsexual needs to be transsexual again else transsexual people are lumped in with fetishists both for 'transgender' and the LGBTALPHABET.

People just want to jump on this to prove how apparently discriminated against they are, and its silly.

Also, so many of my gay friends find queer very offensive. It seems to be mainly the younger generation who have decided its an acceptable term.

Tea!!

Maru 09-02-2018 06:44 PM

They should make LGBT into an umbrella term at this point and say it includes all letters. Done, futureproofed.

Gstar 09-02-2018 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 9856922)
Oh yeah all those asexuals that are thrown out and killed for their sexuality :umm2:

This.

It’s more than including what you might be. The main people who have to fight for equality/raise awareness/go through hell are LGBT. No additions please


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