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Twosugars 13-04-2018 01:08 PM

to play devil's advocate: it hasn't been proved yet it was actually Assad who used them; there's always a possibility it was done by somebody else to get the west to blame Assad and get involved. Many actors could be at play: Iran, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Isis, etc. Just sayin'.

bots 13-04-2018 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9957358)
to play devil's advocate: it hasn't been proved yet it was actually Assad who used them; there's always a possibility it was done by somebody else to get the west to blame Assad and get involved. Many actors could be at play: Iran, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Isis, etc. Just sayin'.

in which case the Russian's would be quick enough to point the finger

Beso 13-04-2018 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9957358)
to play devil's advocate: it hasn't been proved yet it was actually Assad who used them; there's always a possibility it was done by somebody else to get the west to blame Assad and get involved. Many actors could be at play: Iran, Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Isis, etc. Just sayin'.

A lot of photos going around the net showing mock up of injuries....some blaming the white helmets for faking it.

Kizzy 13-04-2018 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9957327)
it's nothing like the same as blair/bush. However, given there is probably time now, I do think it should go to a vote in parliament before action is taken

Time..Time for what?

What is different?

bots 13-04-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9957376)
Time..Time for what?

What is different?

well this has to be coordinated with the french and the USA and neither are jumping to immediate action. Immediate action prior to Monday's restart of parliament is the only reason not to go to the house for a vote, and that seems unlikely now. Also, from the grape vine, it looks like Trump is going to be quite busy looking after his own personal interests in the next few days

Twosugars 13-04-2018 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9957367)
in which case the Russian's would be quick enough to point the finger

they have called it "staged"

Northern Monkey 13-04-2018 04:00 PM

Would it not be more sensible to try getting some independent investigators in to investigate before lobbing cruise missiles in?
What’s the objective?Is it just to take out chemical weapons plants and missile silos/airbases as a punishment?
Because what starts out as one thing usually turns into regime change in these countries.Assad is a disgrace but what may come in his place may be worse when the alternative is a load of Islamist Jihadis.

Nicky91 13-04-2018 04:01 PM

Assad is worse than ISIS, Putin is worse than ISIS and Assad combined


Russia is the most evil country, no one is nice there

Crimson Dynamo 13-04-2018 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 9957531)
Assad is worse than ISIS, Putin is worse than ISIS and Assad combined


Russia is the most evil country, no one is nice there

what about your friend from Russia?

Nicky91 13-04-2018 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9957547)
what about your friend from Russia?

she lives in Germany anyway, and she's more from Kazakhstan it was soviet Union when her family lived there

bots 13-04-2018 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9957528)
Would it not be more sensible to try getting some independent investigators in to investigate before lobbing cruise missiles in?
What’s the objective?Is it just to take out chemical weapons plants and missile silos/airbases as a punishment?
Because what starts out as one thing usually turns into regime change in these countries.Assad is a disgrace but what may come in his place may be worse when the alternative is a load of Islamist Jihadis.

The French president has the evidence. A targeted strike at chemical weapons dumps is no big deal. Would you prefer to leave Syria and the Russians to it, and just wait for the next event here? Because it becomes much more likely if the world lets them away with it.

Nicky91 13-04-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9957566)
The French president has the evidence. A targeted strike at chemical weapons dumps is no big deal. Would you prefer to leave Syria and the Russians to it, and just wait for the next event here? Because it becomes much more likely if the world lets them away with it.

btw isn't a chemical weapons silo just like a nuclear weapon silo, one explosion and there will be a toxic cloud so basically trump is gonna murder some innocent people as well :think:

Northern Monkey 13-04-2018 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9957566)
The French president has the evidence. A targeted strike at chemical weapons dumps is no big deal. Would you prefer to leave Syria and the Russians to it, and just wait for the next event here? Because it becomes much more likely if the world lets them away with it.

My worry is that it could be about more than just taking out chemical weapons capabilities and turn into toppling yet another dictator and creating another power vacuum.Only this one is much more dangerous as it’s full of Russian interests.Russia won’t let Assad go down without a fight.You saw how fast Putin acted in Ukraine when his ally was ousted there.This could go very badly wrong.
I won’t lie.I don’t like it.

Maru 13-04-2018 11:42 PM



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