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arista 12-05-2018 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 9991157)
Very kind. I do hope people do not take advantage though.

Travellers used to come into my place of work which have toilets you can use without being a customer and they would block the toilets to everyone else so they could wash. I have seen them block a disabled toilet for 20 minutes leaving a poor woman outside waiting until security kicked them out.

Yes thats all wrong.
USA Starbucks
are keep managers/supervisors
updated on that kind of mess up.

Alf 12-05-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9991317)
Well unlike the tramps you can go home to your own private toilet.

That's because I earn my own money, sorry for that, but them's the perks.

Twosugars 12-05-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 9991042)
If people had some were to wash they would not stink if they had some were to sleep they would not be homeless if they had some thing to eat they would not be hungry.


It's humans that have created this word of rich and poor, and we are all to blame by being rats in a wheel.

:clap1:

Well said, sheriff.
If there were enough public facilities that wouldn't be an issue. And since there are not enough, it's very kind of a private company to open theirs. Good on them for showing some empathy. It's us, people, who make this world as it is, for better or for worse.

Brillopad 12-05-2018 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9991143)
That's ridiculous, allowing homeless people to use the bathroom is not a political issue, especially not a partisan one.

It's an issue of empathy.

The drama created by a mis-judged decision of a staff member who called the police after two black men refused to leave despite not buying anything and using the facilities was a political issue though. And it is obvious that Starbucks fearing a backlash have now acted in a way that could eventually put them out business if customers stop using them because the toilets are unsanitary.

There is huge competition in the business and customers can easily go elsewhere. I wonder will you have the same empathy for the business if and when it goes down or for the employees who loose their jobs - ultimately due to the fear instilled by PC. Or alternatively will it make you and/or others who support such strong-arm PC tactics feel strong and powerful.

Matthew. 12-05-2018 04:10 PM

what about people with inflammatory bowel problems though, such as Crohn’s, Colitis, IBS?


exactly. you can’t tell purely by looking at someone whether they have one or not as it’s not a physical disability

Crimson Dynamo 12-05-2018 04:11 PM

i wonder what members would do if the local homeless banged on their doors and asked if they could come in for a sh1te?

amazing how lofty ideals can dissipate like snowflakes falling in a river

Brillopad 12-05-2018 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 9991387)
what about people with inflammatory bowel problems though, such as Crohn’s, Colitis, IBS?


exactly. you can’t tell purely by looking at someone whether they have one or not as it’s not a physical disability

What about them - are they unwashed due to a lack of facilities?

Cherie 12-05-2018 04:14 PM

It won’t end well, the sentiment will be abused and people who pay 5 quid for coffee and a biscuit will vote with their feet

Alf 12-05-2018 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9991391)
i wonder what members would do if the local homeless banged on their doors and asked if they could come in for a sh1te?

amazing how lofty ideals can dissipate like snowflakes falling in a river

PJW did a video on this sort of thing the other day, titled, "The truth about virtue signalling"



Oliver_W 12-05-2018 04:19 PM

Starbucks have every right to let anyone use their toilets, just like they have the right to refuse access to people who don't buy stuff. People are also allowed to whinge and withdraw if they don't want to go in a room that previously had a homeless person in it/

Matthew. 12-05-2018 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9991394)
What about them - are they unwashed due to a lack of facilities?

im sorry, i dont understand what you mean - are you trying to prove my point or disprove it?

montblanc 12-05-2018 04:34 PM

i honestly can't believe some of what i'm reading but :skull:

Matthew. 12-05-2018 04:34 PM

because i think i know but i don’t want to reply with what i think you mean in case i’m wrong

Withano 12-05-2018 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9991204)
I like how this has gone from a public business offering people to use the toilet to "if you don't allow gangs of drunks - not homeless people, DRUNKS - inside your home you're a bastard"

:joker: jesus, this is the first time Ive read through this thread. Its so weird.

Mokka 12-05-2018 04:39 PM

Starbucks was already on a decline in America and Canada due to stiff competition from competitors. The bad publicity they garnished over the story that started this didn't help. McDonald's, Tim Hortons and others now have espresso machines with everything Starbucks offers on its menu for cheaper. They are struggling and grasping at this point. McDonald's also provides free washrooms to paying or non paying customers... as do many others.
I just see thus move as them keeping up with their competition.

Withano 12-05-2018 04:43 PM

This is a good thing for thousands of people. If homeless people being allowed to use a toilet negatively impacts your life, I’d argue that you’re a bit of a ****. Buy your overpriced coffee elsewhere...

arista 12-05-2018 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 9991443)
Starbucks was already on a decline in America and Canada due to stiff competition from competitors. The bad publicity they garnished over the story that started this didn't help. McDonald's, Tim Hortons and others now have espresso machines with everything Starbucks offers on its menu for cheaper. They are struggling and grasping at this point. McDonald's also provides free washrooms to paying or non paying customers... as do many others.
I just see thus move as them keeping up with their competition.

Good Points Mokka

montblanc 12-05-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9991453)
This is a good thing for thousands of people. If homeless people being allowed to use a toilet negatively impacts your life, I’d argue that you’re a bit of a ****. Buy your overpriced coffee elsewhere...

honestly

Greg! 12-05-2018 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9991094)
No place for empathy in business.

Says who?

Greg! 12-05-2018 04:46 PM

Do people who disagree with this just rather homeless people shat in the street or something

Alf 12-05-2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9991453)
This is a good thing for thousands of people. If homeless people being allowed to use a toilet negatively impacts your life, I’d argue that you’re a bit of a ****. Buy your overpriced coffee elsewhere...

It doesn't impact anyones life, but it will affect their business. Like I said, buy shares in Costa.

Oliver_W 12-05-2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9991453)
This is a good thing for thousands of people. If homeless people being allowed to use a toilet negatively impacts your life, I’d argue that you’re a bit of a ****. Buy your overpriced coffee elsewhere...

this, tbh

As long as they're not in there with me (Starbucks usually has one person toilets, rather than bigger ones with cubicles) what difference does it make?

Mokka 12-05-2018 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9991461)
Do people who disagree with this just rather homeless people shat in the street or something

Yes...and also they are saying that buying their $5 coffee has earned them the right to live untouched by the vile dirty people in society :thumbs:

Alf 12-05-2018 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9991459)
Says who?

My post, so obviously I say.

Greg! 12-05-2018 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9991467)
My post, so obviously I say.

Well you're incorrect. Many, many businesses have ethical practices and rules.


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