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______________________________________________ Celebrity Big Brother will have to broadcast a series of on-air apologies for the Shilpa Shetty race row affair, Sky sources have learned. I can't see why that is necassary, as the case is closed? Sky has also been told that footage of a racist limerick read out by contestant Jade Goody on the show did exist. Where did this so-called evidence come from?? Producers Endemol had always denied the existence of such footage. understandable Ofcom will say Endemol breached the TV watchdog's code of conduct. It is the job of Ofcom to do such things Goody, ex S-Club 7 singer Jo O'Meara and former Miss UK Danielle Lloyd were all accused of racially bullying the Bollywood actress during this year's show. So we saw and heard All denied they were racist. All were correct. None of them were racist In the unseen footage Goody's boyfriend Jack Tweed makes up a limerick about Shetty. unseen?? I like that word..... Goody's boyfriend Jack Tweed makes up a limerick about Shetty. Clever Jack...He can make a limerick The limerick begins: "There once was a house that was happy, until......" Yes, even I can work out what might come next The four of them then joke about using a word which rhymes with "tacky". Did they? and....? Big Brother producers ask O'Meara and Tweed into the Diary Room and tell them: "It is clear that this was a reference to the racial insult `****'." Endemol were doing their job then?? Spotting a harmless joke Both agree. They both are honest Ofcom singled out another three occasions on which Channel 4 had failed to handle the situation appropriately. I can assume from that quote, that Endemol is okay?? They were: Jade Goody referring to Shetty as "Shilpa Poppadom"; Lloyd saying that Shetty should "******* off home"; and the argument over Shetty cooking a chicken, which ended with Lloyd and O'Meara making derogatory comments about Indian eating habits. Yes!! we saw them and all may have appeared to some, as having possible racial over-tones Ed Richards, Ofcom chief executive, said: "An unprecedented number of complaints were received and, whilst Celebrity Big Brother was still on-air, we launched a full investigation. That is very obvious to work out, as it was on the TV news and in nearly every Newspaper at the time. An Indian bollywood film actress had been attacked by words and comments from Jade, Jo & Danielle..(Investigation followed, as it was the procedure "It is essential that broadcasters are able to air challenging and controversial material but in doing so they must have effective compliance procedures in place and must exercise their editorial duties responsibly." Gambling with three girls lives over millions more viewing figures is very tempting. The rest is history Channel 4 will have to broadcast a summary of Ofcom's finding on three separate occasions. Good solicitors generally sort these small problems out. This shall apply here This will be at the start of the first programme of the new series of Big Brother next Wednesday, the first re-versioned programme the following morning, and the first eviction show. Good timing Endemol has not commented on the adjudication. Wise But Channel 4 said it accepted the ruling. That's big of them Chief executive Andy Duncan said: "We would like to say sorry once again for the offence caused to viewers as a result. Standard procedure really, over nothing that important!! (Murder, rape, terrorism, war), etc.. etc... Let's kind of place things into perspective, can we? "Ofcom did not rule this material should not have been broadcast, but that we should have done more to contextualise it by challenging and reprimanding the offending housemates." No comment.... _____________________________________________ Responding to today’s announcement by Ofcom that Channel 4 has been found guilty of ‘serious editorial misjudgment’ over the Big Brother racism row, Liberal Democrat Shadow Culture, Media and Sport Secretary, Don Foster MP said: "The unprecedented public interest in this incident, combined with previous Big Brother breaches of the broadcasting code, meant Ofcom had little choice but to act. Political response and very helpful... "Allegations of racist abuse and bullying must never be ignored and I welcome the tough but proportionate sanctions now imposed by Ofcom. racist bullying, not (bullying) remember that!! "While Channel 4 has learned lessons and is taking appropriate steps to avoid a recurrence, other broadcasters must now ensure that their own procedures will prevent similar incidents in their programmes. All white Housemates will treat all persons who are non-white with kid-gloves. That is a fact!! "With the right compliance systems in place, broadcasters can still remain at the cutting edge of innovative and challenging programming. Ofcom’s decision should not lead to just bland and safe programmes." How quaint and how much like a politician who is exactly like all the rest. (Politically correct) ______________________________________________ nodisharmony :angel: |
Some good points there Nodis, though I don't agree that Endemol thought the Limerick was merely a 'harmless joke'. So far I have only suggested that I thought there were racist undertones in the house but when I consider this limerick, who said it , about who, and the state of their friendship, I feel it can`t realistically be considered a harmless joke. It's easy to see from the transcript that they all immediately begin to backtrack by suggesting other words like nappy, strappy and crappy etc. These are all the signs of people who know they have just gone one step too far.
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Big Brother Lies: The Truth
Front page of the Daily Star. Story of the new race row revelations.
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Brother\'s Grim
From The DM
EXCLUSIVE Contestants axed Racism cover-up Humiliating apology By Nicola Methven, Tv Editor 25/05/2007 THE new series of Big Brother was in chaos last night after repeated bust-ups between the show's makers and scandal-hit Channel 4. The bitter dispute emerged as C4 bosses were yesterday ordered to make three grovelling on-screen apologies over the Celebrity Big Brother race row. TV watchdog Ofcom slammed the broadcaster for "serious errors of judgment" and said it had covered up more disgusting racist attacks on Shilpa Shetty by Jade Goody and her brainless cohorts. The damning ruling has thrown preparations for the start of next week's Big Brother 8 into disarray. Desperate to keep the show - hosted by Davina McCall - scandal free, C4 bosses have rejected three contestants put forward by makers Endemol. They have also thrown out plans to encourage class warfare in the house by recruiting extreme individuals from different social groups. One source said last night: "Channel 4 are trying to wrestle back control of the show and make sure there are no more scandals, but Endemol insists the programme will flop if there aren't any clashes or tension." One contestant - described as the best housemate selected this year - was rejected because he had been arrested after a fight. The source added: "He was a brilliant, cocky bloke - easily the best man we had. We booked him straight away but then had to drop him because he got into a fight. "He may have to go to court and we couldn't risk him getting into a row in the house and then it emerging that we'd allowed him in as a contestant knowing that he'd been arrested in a bar brawl. "Last year we'd have put him in. This year we don't dare. Other great would-be housemates have also been thrown out because of the extra psychology tests. Endemol wanted them in, but Channel 4 said no. Things are getting very heated." BB8 begins next Wednesday, when Channel 4 will make the first of its apologies over January's Celebrity Big Brother. The race row sparked an international outcry and attracted a record 45,000 complaints from viewers. |
Big Brother - The race row tapes
From The DS
OFCOM has slammed Channel 4 for its handling of the Big Brother race row. The furious media watchdog ordered the channel to broadcast three apologies at the start of series eight next week. And today, for the first time, dailystar.co.uk - your hottest website for all the best reality TV - can publish the secret material that was never broadcast during the show. A devastating transcript, which was referred to in Ofcom's adjudication on the series yesterday, is here in full. It reveals how Jack Tweed and Jo O'Meara were warned off-camera about using racist language about Shilpa Shetty. And it shows how Jack wanted to quit the show as soon he thought the incredible row had hit the papers. * This transcript contains some offensive language, so please do not read on if you are easily offended. ---------------------------------------------------- Celebrity Big Brother Series 5 Tuesday 16th January 2007 Approx. 23:18: Jo No? Jade Nothing. Jo Bad? Jade No, not really, but yeah, really. Yeah? Danielle What's there to say? Jo You're allowed to say. Jade [Inaudible] get in trouble. Cleo No, you can't say anything. All I can tell you it was 24 hours later. Big Brother This is Big Brother. Could Danielle come to the diary room? Jade 24 hours later? Jo Yeah, that you got told off. Danielle I can't even remember saying anything. Jade I think I know. I don't think it's anything naughty like that. I think that... maybe Danielle used the 'P' word. Jo Oh, really? Jade Maybe. Cleo I don't even know what 'P' word means. Don't tell me, though. Jo Oh, you're kidding. That's bad. Jade No, I can imagine her saying that under her breath. [DELETION OF DEFAMATORY REFERENCE TO A THIRD PARTY OUTSIDE THE HOUSE,FOR LEGAL REASONS] Jo Oh, that's not good. Jade Maybe she didn't. Maybe I'm just thinking it. Jo Oh, that's naughty, naughty, naughty that is. Danielle Three bottles. Jack Tight bastards. Jo Three bottles of beer? Danielle Well, I'll have a rosé. I'm not bothered. Cleo Do you know what, I'm fine not with any wine. I won't sleep. Jade We're only going to drink the whole bottle on our own. Danielle I'll drink the rosé and give them half a bottle each. Jade There's enough [inaudible], Cleo. Danielle Give them one and a half each and I'll have a rosé, because I'm not bothered. Cleo I'm trying to work out what the 'P' word is. Jade Did you use the 'P' word? Danielle What's the 'P' word? Jack It rhymes with 'tacky'. Jo Keep it nice and discreet there Jack. Danielle I don't know. Jade When the argument was going on, did you use the 'P' word that rhymes with 'tacky'? Danielle No. Jade That's what I thought. I thought, I can imagine her saying that under her breath or something. Danielle I don't use them words. Jo Good. Jade That's a good thing. I can't imagine her going, 'Oh, **** off you...' Tuesday 16th January 2007 Approx. 23:40: [Cross talk] Cleo Just my luck. Jade What happened? Cleo Got full again. Jade Yeah, but I wanted a drink and it just went - Cleo Oh, I miss my huge mouth the whole time. It's so embarrassing in restaurants when you go like this and... That's why I never drink red. It really shows. No. It's not going for you. Jo There once was a house that was happy. Jade I've got a great one, but I'm not allowed to say it. Danielle Why? Why? I want to know. Cleo She can't if she can't say it. [Cross talk] Jo There once was a house that was happy, 'mi ni mi ni mi ni mi ni' and then there entered... Cleo You're all going to go to Big Brother prison. Danielle How do you know what - Cleo And you're going to need me - Jo But it ends with a nappy. What's wrong with you people? Jack But if you say, 'Along came some people who were tacky'. Jade There once was a house that was happy, until... Jack They made it really tacky. Jade Until there entered a... Until there entered a... Jo Strappy... Strap-on. Jack Strap-on Jade No, no, no, there once was a house that was happy... Jo Until someone got yappy. Jade Yes. There once was a house that was happy, until someone got yappy. Jack She nearly killed everyone with a chicken. Cleo But everything ended up finger-lickin'. Jo Now you've got to do something that rhymes with a nappy. Cleo Oh, God, don't give that to Danielle, for God's sake. Danielle And it all ended up - Being crappy. Cleo Oh, dear me. Jo Right. Danielle That could have been rather disturbing, that. Jo That was a good one. Wednesday 17th January 2007 Approx. 00:13: Jo ...claim to fame was your argument with her. Jade Yeah, with her. Jo Because of the argument they had. She said, 'You know what, Jade, this is going to be your claim to fame'. Jade Because she's a god. Danielle Is that what she said? Jo Yeah, she did. Jade 'This is going to be your claim to fame'. Jo 'This is going to be your claim to fame'. Jade [Inaudible] I don't know her surname. Shilpa Pashwa ****ing whoever you are, Shilpa Poppadom, I ****ing... Oooh. Jack Stop it. Jo Calm down. It's finished. Jade I am fuming and I know that it's not going to lie, because I know, when I look at her tomorrow, I'm going to be feeling sick. I cannot stay...I cannot stay in this house and I will never walk - Jo There was a young girl from Bombay... Jade No, let's not do that. I will not walk, because I've never let it get to me, but I tell you what, if I go, that will probably be the best thing for me - a bloody godsend - because I'll end up smashing her head against... No, I won't, because I'm not violent. Jo Jack's like, 'Yeah, uh-huh'. Cleo I think it will probably be better - Jo Drink another beer. Cleo To change the subject because I don't want you to get into... I'm very passionate, and I think we all are. When you get that angry, you use - Jo No, I think that today's argument was a nasty argument. [Cross talk] Jade I'm common and I need... I need to go and get elocution lessons because I'm common? How dare she turn her nose up at me? I'm not one of her pissing servants. She's in a house with nine other people, which are normal people. Jermaine Jackson is a ****ing legend - you don't hear him talking down to people. You don't hear him turning his nose up to people. Jo You don't really get much bigger than Jackson. Jade No, you don't. You don't hear him say - Jo And he's the quietest, nicest, most genuine person. Cleo Yeah, I love him. Jo Genuinely, a genuine person who's lovely. Cleo He is genuine. Jo And I've got to be honest, I have witnessed things myself with sniggering and whispering and talking - Jade Jack did. Jack was in there the other day, in that kitchen, it was just him and Jermaine - Jo She done it about me with Dirk over the whisky. Jade Shilpa walked into the kitchen, looked at Jack, whispered to Jermaine and laughed. Jack said to me, 'Oh, my God'. I was just this close to saying something to Shilpa. Saturday 20th January 2007 Approx. 19:47 DIARY ROOM WITH JO O'MEARA: Jo I thought I was coming to collect some beers. Big Brother Hello, Jo. Jo Hello. Big Brother Jo, please could you switch off your microphone and take the battery out for Big Brother please? You should still know you're being recorded. Jo Okay. Am I in trouble? There you go. Big Brother Thanks, Jo. Jo, Big Brother would like to make it clear that what we're about to talk about is a matter that Big Brother has decided to raise with you. Just to be clear, this has not come from any of the other housemates. Do you understand? Jo Right. I think so. Big Brother To clarify, Big Brother has decided to raise this matter with you. Jo Okay. Big Brother Jo, it has only now come to Big Brother's attention that you have made remarks that Big Brother considers to be racially offensive. Jo Oh, you're kidding. Like what? Big Brother On Tuesday night, which was day 14 in the Big Brother house, you and other housemates were playing a game where you were making up limericks about Shilpa. Jo Yeah. Big Brother As part of this game, you used rhyming slang to replace what other housemates called 'the "P" word'. The rhyming slangs you used were the words - Jo I never said the 'P' word. Big Brother The rhyming slang you used were the words 'nappy', 'happy' and 'strappy', amongst others. Jo That depends on how you take it. I'm not a racist person at all, ever, and I never, ever have been. I know that. Big Brother Jo, it's clear to Big Brother that, in this conversation, this game, that these rhyming words were references to the racial insult '****'. Jo Right, okay. Big Brother Do you understand that this is considered racially offensive language? Jo Yes, I do. I didn't... really didn't mean it in that way, though. Big Brother Big Brother would like to give you some time to respond. Jo I don't know how to respond to that, to be honest. I don't consider myself to be racist at all, against anybody or any religion or... and, like, if Jermaine is praying or Shilpa's praying, I always stay out of the room, I stay out of the way and I let them do what they do, and I ask questions about it and... and I want to know more about their religions and stuff. I don't see that as a problem at all. I didn't realise the seriousness of it and I apologise if I offended anybody, but I never, ever meant to. Big Brother Do you remember the incident? Jo Yeah, I do. Big Brother Can you take Big Brother through your version of the events? Jo Oh, God, I don't know if I remember it to that extreme. It was just playing rhyming slangs and I was just... So you say whatever. You say lots of different stuff. Big Brother Do you remember any of the lines of the limerick? Jo Do you know what, I really don't, because in here, we were talking earlier on about being in the servants' quarters, and that feels like about three or four months ago. So, no, I don't, to be honest. Big Brother Do you remember who was involved in the game? Jo Me... the same people that always play the limerick game, so that would be me, Jade, Dan... maybe Cleo. She sometimes plays. And Jack. Big Brother In the limerick, do you remember what you intended the words 'happy','strappy' - Jo Well, no, because it could've... we could've said anything. It didn't necessarily have to mean that. Do you know what, it didn't even mean that. It's just how you take it. You come out with all different stuff. We've come up with loads of rude things playing that game. It doesn't necessarily mean it's intended to be racist. Big Brother Jo, during the game, Jack said that the word rhymed with 'tacky'. Jo Well then, that's Jack, isn't it? That's not me. Big Brother Do you understand how it might have been considered racist to be using a rhyming slang that rhymed with '****'? Jo Yeah, I can now, but do you know what, I didn't really take much notice of it at the time. It's just... you just play silly games in this house and do silly things when there's nothing to do, so you just find ways of trying to entertain yourself. Today's been another day which has been really tough for everyone because we've not had anything to do again. And it's getting to that point now where everyone's, like, 'Ugh'. I never meant for it to be that way, and if it was that way, then I apologise. Big Brother Jo, just to be clear, do you understand that the word, and any inference using rhyming slang of that word, could consider... could be considered to be racially offensive? Jo Yes. Big Brother Jo, Big Brother will not tolerate any racist behaviour or anything that could be seen to be racist behaviour in the Big Brother house. Jo Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm not a... I'm not racist at all, though. That's the thing. I'm really, really not. Really not. I've not seen eye-to-eye with Shilpa throughout this whole game, and I'm not going to start pretending that she's my best friend but she's a... I've got on a lot better with her today than I have throughout the whole show. Big Brother Why do you think that is? Jo I have got no idea. I really, really don't know, but... I just think the group is slowly starting to get smaller now and you've got to start spending time with different people, because people are going. I think, is it six people, have left now. And I suppose, as the group gets smaller and the people you're left with, you... you have to communicate more and talk more with, so I've been speaking a lot more today, and I've spoken a lot more to Jermaine today as well. We've been playing games. And I know that I'm not a racist person because my cousin is married to an Indian and half of the side of, like, that side of my family are all Indian. So I'm not a racist person at all. All my cou... I'd say, well... my cousin's married to an Indian man and they've got four children and all their... his family interact with my family, so I'm surrounded by Indians a lot, because they're part of my family, so I wouldn't be racist. My cousins are Indian. Big Brother Jo, as a result of this incident, Big Brother has no option but to issue you with your first and only formal warning. Jo Okay. Big Brother Any further incidents could result in your immediate eviction. Jo Okay. So I've had a warning and that's my last one. Big Brother Correct. Jo Okay. Big Brother Jo, Big Brother would ask that you exercise care in the future. Jo Yes, I will, and I'm very, very sorry. Big Brother Big Brother would also like to remind you that, as always, all diary room conversations between Big Brother and housemates are confidential. Jo Okay. Big Brother Do you understand? Jo Yes, I do. Big Brother Jo, Big Brother has arranged for you to have a short conversation, off camera - Jo Okay. Big Brother With Steven, the psychologist. A brief chat to talk through this matter in confidence, for your benefit. Jo Okay. Big Brother Big Brother will now hand over to Steven. Jo Okay. Big Brother There may be a short pause while we ensure that the diary room is not being recorded. Jo Thank you. Big Brother Thanks, Jo. Jo Thanks. Saturday 20th January 2007 Approx. 20:20 - DIARY ROOM WITH JACK TWEED: Jack Hello. Big Brother Hello, Jack. Jack Hello. Big Brother Jack, please could you switch off your microphone and take the battery out, please? You should know that you are still being recorded. Jack Done Big Brother Thanks. Jack, please listen carefully. Jack Okay. Big Brother Big Brother would like to, first of all, make very clear that what we are about to talk about is a matter that Big Brother has decided to raise with you. Jack All right. Big Brother Just to be clear, this has not come from any of the other housemates. Do you understand? Jack Yeah, I understand. Big Brother Jack, it has only now come to Big Brother's attention that you have made remarks that Big Brother considers to be racially offensive. Jack Like what? Big Brother On Tuesday night, day 14 in the Big Brother house - Jack Yeah. Big Brother You and other housemates were playing a game where you were making up limericks about Shilpa. Jack Yeah. Big Brother You were using rhyming slang to replace what you called 'the "P" word'. Jack Okay. Big Brother You said the word rhymed with 'tacky'. Jack Okay. Big Brother It is clear to Big Brother, Jack, that this was a reference to the racial insult '****'. Jack Okay. Big Brother Do you understand that this is considered racially offensive language? Jack Yeah, okay. Big Brother What do you have to say about this, Jack? Jack I was explaining the word that someone that was meant to have rhymed with the word. I wasn't actually saying the word. Big Brother Do you mean you were trying to include the word in the limerick but were using another word to replace it? Jack I can't really remember what exactly happened but I think... that someone said 'I know a word that rhymes with that' and then I clocked on to what it was and then explained what the word was, but didn't actually say the word. Big Brother Do you remember why... how the word came up in the first place? Jack No, I can't remember. Big Brother Do you remember playing the limerick game that night? Jack Sort of. Big Brother Do you remember who was playing it? Jack No. Me, Jade, Cleo, Jo and Danielle. Big Brother And where you were playing it? Jack In the lounge. Big Brother And do you remember the approximate time that you were playing it at? Jack No, I'm not sure. Big Brother Any idea? Jack No, I wouldn't... No, sorry, I wouldn't have a clue. Big Brother Was it afternoon, early evening, late evening? Jack Late evening, I'd say. Big Brother Jack, do you understand that the 'P' word - **** - Jack Yeah. Big Brother Is considered to be racist? Jack Yeah, I fully understand. Big Brother And that simply by replacing the word with a word that rhymes with it doesn't take away from the racial insult? Jack I wasn't saying it to anyone. I was explaining what the word... what the word is. That's why, in a conversation, you're allowed to say, 'The word "****" is a racist remark'. That's why you're allowed to say it. So I wasn't saying, 'That girl is a ****'; I was saying 'the word is that'. Big Brother You've suggested that the word 'tacky' could be included in a limerick. Correct? Jack Yeah, I think so, yeah. Big Brother So would it be fair to say that you were making light of the inclusion of the word '****' in a limerick with the group. Jack I think so, yeah. I can't really remember the whole conversation that we had. Big Brother Jack, was the limerick about Shilpa? Jack I think... I really can't remember. I think so. I don't know. Big Brother Jack, Big Brother is going to remind you of the limerick. Jack Okay. Big Brother Jo began: 'There once was a house that was happy'. You then said: 'Until...' Jo said: 'And then there entered...' Cleo then interrupted and said, 'You are all going to BB prison'. Jo said: 'And then there entered a nappy'. You then said: 'Or, if you say, "Or along came some people who was tacky"'. Jack Yeah. So that wasn't referring to the word '****'. That was just people who was tacky. Big Brother Jack, in a previous conversation, you had substituted the word 'tacky' for the word '****'. Jack In that limerick just then, I wasn't at all suggesting that the word was meant to be '****'. I was saying tacky, as in tacky people. I wasn't - not at all. Big Brother Jack, do you understand that some people may consider what you said to be racially offensive? Jack Yeah, some people who got the wrong end of the stick, I would, yeah. Can I just ask: is this... What, is this out in the paper, because if it is, I'd rather just leave now. Big Brother Jack, Big Brother wants you to understand that this word could be considered to be racist. Do you understand that? Jack Yeah, I understand that. Big Brother And that Big Brother will not tolerate any racist behaviour or anything that could be seen to be racist behaviour in the Big Brother house? Jack Yeah. Big Brother Jack, as a result of this incident, Big Brother is now issuing you with your first and only formal warning about this. Jack Okay. Big Brother Any further incidents could result in your immediate eviction. Jack Okay. Could I just... Can you just please tell me if this is out in the paper or anything like that, if anything's out there suggesting, because if it is, I'd rather just leave now. Big Brother Jack, just listen for a second. Jack Okay. Big Brother Big Brother would ask that you exercise some care in the future with your language. Jack Yeah. Big Brother And Big Brother would like to remind you that, as always, all diary room conversations between Big Brother and housemates are confidential. Jack Okay. Big Brother Do you understand? Jack Yeah. Thank you. Big Brother Jack, Big Brother has arranged for you to have a short conversation, off-camera, with Steven, the psychologist, to talk through this matter in confidence. Jack Right. Big Brother Big Brother will now hand over to Steven. There may be a short pause while we ensure that the diary room is not being recorded. Jack Okay. Big Brother Okay? Jack Okay. Thank you. * What do YOU think? Should Jade, Jack, Jo and Danielle be punished further? |
Say Sorry Sorry Sorry
From The DS
SHAMED Channel 4 must screen THREE apologies to TV viewers next week for the racist comments broadcast on Celebrity Big Brother. TV watchdog Ofcom has blasted the station for breaching its strict guidelines and broadcasting “offensive and unsuitable” footage which sparked the Shilpa Shetty race row. Red-faced C4 chiefs have been ordered to say sorry for their “serious error of judgment”. The first apology will go out at 9pm next Wednesday night, just before the launch show of Big Brother 8. C4 must apologise again when the repeat goes out at 7.45am the following day – and a third time on BB’s first live eviction show in June. But the station was also slammed over material that was not broadcast – when it denied existence of a tape that clearly shows housemates making up a limerick that referred to Shilpa as a “Paki”. Last night C4 boss Andy Duncan admitted: “We made mistakes and we’re sorry. There are lessons to be learned from this.” Ofcom received a record 46,000 complaints from viewers who claimed that certain clips aired on the show, broadcast in January, were racist. Show fans complained as Jade Goody and Jo O’Meara were shown bullying and making apparently racist comments about Bollywood star Shilpa. Ofcom attacked TV execs for failing to step in earlier and reprimand the housemates. Following a four-month probe, Ofcom yesterday revealed its findings, which made grim reading for the station which broadcasts the spy-on-the-wall show. C4 had argued it had handled the footage “responsibly” and that the celebrities were entitled to “freedom of expression”. It also believed it had followed Ofcom’s code – but the watchdog said the show had breached its strict codes on four occasions when it broadcast ... Jade, 25, being ticked off by BB bosses for calling the actress “Shilpa Poppadom” (two breaches because it was aired twice). Jo, 28, saying how Indians ate with their fingers and were always thin because they undercooked their food. l Danielle Lloyd, 23, telling her housemates she wished Shilpa would “******* off home”. Ofcom said the clips breached two codes – failing to ensure material that might cause offence is justified by the context, and failing to protect children by appropriate scheduling from unsuitable material. Its report concluded: “It is Ofcom’s view that when these incidents were broadcast, Channel 4 failed sufficiently to address the potential for offence or left this behaviour unchallenged. It represents a serious error of judgment in relation to material that requires the most careful handling. This resulted in offence being caused to a very large number of viewers.” And C4 bosses were in more hot water after denying unbroadcasted clips existed of Jo and Jade’s boyfriend Jack Tweed, 19, trying to make up a racist limerick about 31-year-old Shilpa. After initially saying the incident never happened, they admitted a “breakdown in communication” meant show makers Endemol UK had not told them about the incident. Ofcom said this ignorance over the clips - the transcripts of which can be read here on dailystar.co.uk today - did not “excuse” C4, which should have ensured it was aware of “all relevant material”. C4 and Endemol UK last night vowed to intervene earlier in future to tackle unacceptable behaviour or offensive language. They will also put stricter rules in the house for BB8, employ a “senior welfare producer” to monitor housemates, appoint a stronger legal team and launch a new “right to reply” show for viewers to air complaints. Director of Television Kevin Lygo said: “Channel 4 is doing everything possible to prevent a repeat of the public offence caused while staying true to the format of Big Brother.” And Mr Duncan added: “We believe the initiatives will help prevent a repeat of the public offence caused by the programme.” But last night MP Keith Vaz, who led the protests in Parliament, said: “C4 has behaved in an arrogant way. Andy Duncan should realise the contempt shown … now merits his resignation.” Culture Secretary Tessa Jowell welcomed the measures, adding: “We will be watching very closely to ensure that these have the desired effect”. * What do YOU think? Should Jade, Jack, Jo and Danielle be punished further? |
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THE new series of Big Brother was in chaos last night after repeated bust-ups between the show's makers and scandal-hit Channel 4. Understandable The bitter dispute emerged as C4 bosses were yesterday ordered to make three grovelling on-screen apologies over the Celebrity Big Brother race row. This is due to accountability. Those who chose to think of profit's first and second and third and fourth.....right up until three million. Rather than realising, what was staring in all our faces (many thousand offended people noticed), so now they have now been forced to apologise.. TV watchdog Ofcom slammed the broadcaster for "serious errors of judgment" and said it had covered up more disgusting racist attacks on Shilpa Shetty by Jade Goody and her brainless cohorts. If further comments were said & edited out. Then why was the other stuff kept in? "My point above speaks volumes". None of those nice Celebrities were or are brainless. Jade, Jo or Danielle, (Jack too).. The damning ruling has thrown preparations for the start of next week's Big Brother 8 into disarray. I doubt that...Big Brother 8 is going to happen, (sorry critics) Shove off to that point of view!! We at TIBB are waiting... Desperate to keep the show - hosted by Davina McCall - scandal free, C4 bosses have rejected three contestants put forward by makers Endemol. They have also thrown out plans to encourage class warfare in the house by recruiting extreme individuals from different social groups. Nobody in the fourthcoming BB8 is going to be racist anyway. It just can't happen, it's impossible, double impossible, triple impossible. Every white housemate knows why One source said last night: "Channel 4 are trying to wrestle back control of the show and make sure there are no more scandals, but Endemol insists the programme will flop if there aren't any clashes or tension." Endemol is right...Channel 4 have forgotten how to make money, with a stupid & idiotic comment like that One contestant - described as the best housemate selected this year - was rejected because he had been arrested after a fight. I see???? so that means that nobody else in the BB8 house will get into a fight. Time to grow up someone The source added: "He was a brilliant, cocky bloke - easily the best man we had. We booked him straight away but then had to drop him because he got into a fight. tough luck then!! show will happen anyway "He may have to go to court and we couldn't risk him getting into a row in the house and then it emerging that we'd allowed him in as a contestant knowing that he'd been arrested in a bar brawl. I guess it is time to cover your backs in this situation. We know this country has become today. Everybody suing each other, because they can. Some call it progress?? I call it, "A chance for a quick buck" and I am right... "Last year we'd have put him in. This year we don't dare. Other great would-be housemates have also been thrown out because of the extra psychology tests. Endemol wanted them in, but Channel 4 said no. Things are getting very heated." Well bring in a load of babies and puppy dogs then. Keep them busy!! BB8 begins next Wednesday, when Channel 4 will make the first of its apologies over January's Celebrity Big Brother. The race row sparked an international outcry and attracted a record 45,000 complaints from viewers Stating what we already know. Yes, BB8 is coming and the apology is neither-here-nor-there. 45,000 complaints, but nobody at CH4 or Endemol realised. Then they talk about three poor housemates brains..Place Jade Goody in charge of BB8 that's my answer ______________________________________________ OFCOM has slammed Channel 4 for its handling of the Big Brother race row. Yep! The furious media watchdog ordered the channel to broadcast three apologies at the start of series eight next week. I wouldn't say "furious", I would say:- "money hungry + prompted" And today, for the first time, dailystar.co.uk - your hottest website for all the best reality TV - can publish the secret material that was never broadcast during the show. Endemol's un-cut tapes I presume??? (Daily Star, the newspaper who knows so much about BB8 and every rumour printed is going to happen) YES, Right...."Total rubbish". The only good thing about the Daily Star, that I can see, is a girl called Danielle Lloyd..But the rest I can't think of right now. I'll have to check my notes:wink: A devastating transcript, which was referred to in Ofcom's adjudication on the series yesterday, is here in full. Clever Daily Star...More bad publicity to make more money for yourselves to enjoy. More trouble to follow, I'll tell you.. It reveals how Jack Tweed and Jo O'Meara were warned off-camera about using racist language about Shilpa Shetty. Blaming Jo O'Meara & Jack Tweed this time, typical!! That must mean that Jade Goody & Danielle Lloyd are little angels then. I feel better now! And it shows how Jack wanted to quit the show as soon he thought the incredible row had hit the papers. It was a new experience for him and the Race-Row thingy was starting, media-wise * This transcript contains some offensive language, so please do not read on if you are easily offended. I am not easily offended at all and neither is anybody on this forum, Fact!! ---------------------------------------------------- TRANSCRIPT, THEN BELOW THAT, "MY CONCLUSION" Celebrity Big Brother Series 5 Tuesday 16th January 2007 Approx. 23:18: Jo No? Jade Nothing. Jo Bad? Jade No, not really, but yeah, really. Yeah? Danielle What's there to say? Jo You're allowed to say. Jade [Inaudible] get in trouble. Cleo No, you can't say anything. All I can tell you it was 24 hours later. Big Brother This is Big Brother. Could Danielle come to the diary room? Jade 24 hours later? Jo Yeah, that you got told off. Danielle I can't even remember saying anything. Jade I think I know. I don't think it's anything naughty like that. I think that... maybe Danielle used the 'P' word. Jo Oh, really? Jade Maybe. Cleo I don't even know what 'P' word means. Don't tell me, though. Jo Oh, you're kidding. That's bad. Jade No, I can imagine her saying that under her breath. [DELETION OF DEFAMATORY REFERENCE TO A THIRD PARTY OUTSIDE THE HOUSE,FOR LEGAL REASONS] Jo Oh, that's not good. Jade Maybe she didn't. Maybe I'm just thinking it. Jo Oh, that's naughty, naughty, naughty that is. Danielle Three bottles. Jack Tight bastards. Jo Three bottles of beer? Danielle Well, I'll have a rosé. I'm not bothered. Cleo Do you know what, I'm fine not with any wine. I won't sleep. Jade We're only going to drink the whole bottle on our own. Danielle I'll drink the rosé and give them half a bottle each. Jade There's enough [inaudible], Cleo. Danielle Give them one and a half each and I'll have a rosé, because I'm not bothered. Cleo I'm trying to work out what the 'P' word is. Jade Did you use the 'P' word? Danielle What's the 'P' word? Jack It rhymes with 'tacky'. Jo Keep it nice and discreet there Jack. Danielle I don't know. Jade When the argument was going on, did you use the 'P' word that rhymes with 'tacky'? Danielle No. Jade That's what I thought. I thought, I can imagine her saying that under her breath or something. Danielle I don't use them words. Jo Good. Jade That's a good thing. I can't imagine her going, 'Oh, **** off you...' Tuesday 16th January 2007 Approx. 23:40: [Cross talk] Cleo Just my luck. Jade What happened? Cleo Got full again. Jade Yeah, but I wanted a drink and it just went - Cleo Oh, I miss my huge mouth the whole time. It's so embarrassing in restaurants when you go like this and... That's why I never drink red. It really shows. No. It's not going for you. Jo There once was a house that was happy. Jade I've got a great one, but I'm not allowed to say it. Danielle Why? Why? I want to know. Cleo She can't if she can't say it. [Cross talk] Jo There once was a house that was happy, 'mi ni mi ni mi ni mi ni' and then there entered... Cleo You're all going to go to Big Brother prison. Danielle How do you know what - Cleo And you're going to need me - Jo But it ends with a nappy. What's wrong with you people? Jack But if you say, 'Along came some people who were tacky'. Jade There once was a house that was happy, until... Jack They made it really tacky. Jade Until there entered a... Until there entered a... Jo Strappy... Strap-on. Jack Strap-on Jade No, no, no, there once was a house that was happy... Jo Until someone got yappy. Jade Yes. There once was a house that was happy, until someone got yappy. Jack She nearly killed everyone with a chicken. Cleo But everything ended up finger-lickin'. Jo Now you've got to do something that rhymes with a nappy. Cleo Oh, God, don't give that to Danielle, for God's sake. Danielle And it all ended up - Being crappy. Cleo Oh, dear me. Jo Right. Danielle That could have been rather disturbing, that. Jo That was a good one. Wednesday 17th January 2007 Approx. 00:13: Jo ...claim to fame was your argument with her. Jade Yeah, with her. Jo Because of the argument they had. She said, 'You know what, Jade, this is going to be your claim to fame'. Jade Because she's a god. Danielle Is that what she said? Jo Yeah, she did. Jade 'This is going to be your claim to fame'. Jo 'This is going to be your claim to fame'. Jade [Inaudible] I don't know her surname. Shilpa Pashwa ****ing whoever you are, Shilpa Poppadom, I ****ing... Oooh. Jack Stop it. Jo Calm down. It's finished. Jade I am fuming and I know that it's not going to lie, because I know, when I look at her tomorrow, I'm going to be feeling sick. I cannot stay...I cannot stay in this house and I will never walk - Jo There was a young girl from Bombay... Jade No, let's not do that. I will not walk, because I've never let it get to me, but I tell you what, if I go, that will probably be the best thing for me - a bl***y godsend - because I'll end up smashing her head against... No, I won't, because I'm not violent. Jo Jack's like, 'Yeah, uh-huh'. Cleo I think it will probably be better - Jo Drink another beer. Cleo To change the subject because I don't want you to get into... I'm very passionate, and I think we all are. When you get that angry, you use - Jo No, I think that today's argument was a nasty argument. [Cross talk] Jade I'm common and I need... I need to go and get elocution lessons because I'm common? How dare she turn her nose up at me? I'm not one of her pissing servants. She's in a house with nine other people, which are normal people. Jermaine Jackson is a ****ing legend - you don't hear him talking down to people. You don't hear him turning his nose up to people. Jo You don't really get much bigger than Jackson. Jade No, you don't. You don't hear him say - Jo And he's the quietest, nicest, most genuine person. Cleo Yeah, I love him. Jo Genuinely, a genuine person who's lovely. Cleo He is genuine. Jo And I've got to be honest, I have witnessed things myself with sniggering and whispering and talking - Jade Jack did. Jack was in there the other day, in that kitchen, it was just him and Jermaine - Jo She done it about me with Dirk over the whisky. Jade Shilpa walked into the kitchen, looked at Jack, whispered to Jermaine and laughed. Jack said to me, 'Oh, my God'. I was just this close to saying something to Shilpa. Saturday 20th January 2007 Approx. 19:47 DIARY ROOM WITH JO O'MEARA: Jo I thought I was coming to collect some beers. Big Brother Hello, Jo. Jo Hello. Big Brother Jo, please could you switch off your microphone and take the battery out for Big Brother please? You should still know you're being recorded. Jo Okay. Am I in trouble? There you go. Big Brother Thanks, Jo. Jo, Big Brother would like to make it clear that what we're about to talk about is a matter that Big Brother has decided to raise with you. Just to be clear, this has not come from any of the other housemates. Do you understand? Jo Right. I think so. Big Brother To clarify, Big Brother has decided to raise this matter with you. Jo Okay. Big Brother Jo, it has only now come to Big Brother's attention that you have made remarks that Big Brother considers to be racially offensive. Jo Oh, you're kidding. Like what? Big Brother On Tuesday night, which was day 14 in the Big Brother house, you and other housemates were playing a game where you were making up limericks about Shilpa. Jo Yeah. Big Brother As part of this game, you used rhyming slang to replace what other housemates called 'the "P" word'. The rhyming slangs you used were the words - Jo I never said the 'P' word. Big Brother The rhyming slang you used were the words 'nappy', 'happy' and 'strappy', amongst others. Jo That depends on how you take it. I'm not a racist person at all, ever, and I never, ever have been. I know that. Big Brother Jo, it's clear to Big Brother that, in this conversation, this game, that these rhyming words were references to the racial insult '****'. Jo Right, okay. Big Brother Do you understand that this is considered racially offensive language? Jo Yes, I do. I didn't... really didn't mean it in that way, though. Big Brother Big Brother would like to give you some time to respond. Jo I don't know how to respond to that, to be honest. I don't consider myself to be racist at all, against anybody or any religion or... and, like, if Jermaine is praying or Shilpa's praying, I always stay out of the room, I stay out of the way and I let them do what they do, and I ask questions about it and... and I want to know more about their religions and stuff. I don't see that as a problem at all. I didn't realise the seriousness of it and I apologise if I offended anybody, but I never, ever meant to. Big Brother Do you remember the incident? Jo Yeah, I do. Big Brother Can you take Big Brother through your version of the events? Jo Oh, God, I don't know if I remember it to that extreme. It was just playing rhyming slangs and I was just... So you say whatever. You say lots of different stuff. Big Brother Do you remember any of the lines of the limerick? Jo Do you know what, I really don't, because in here, we were talking earlier on about being in the servants' quarters, and that feels like about three or four months ago. So, no, I don't, to be honest. Big Brother Do you remember who was involved in the game? Jo Me... the same people that always play the limerick game, so that would be me, Jade, Dan... maybe Cleo. She sometimes plays. And Jack. Big Brother In the limerick, do you remember what you intended the words 'happy','strappy' - Jo Well, no, because it could've... we could've said anything. It didn't necessarily have to mean that. Do you know what, it didn't even mean that. It's just how you take it. You come out with all different stuff. We've come up with loads of rude things playing that game. It doesn't necessarily mean it's intended to be racist. Big Brother Jo, during the game, Jack said that the word rhymed with 'tacky'. Jo Well then, that's Jack, isn't it? That's not me. Big Brother Do you understand how it might have been considered racist to be using a rhyming slang that rhymed with '****'? Jo Yeah, I can now, but do you know what, I didn't really take much notice of it at the time. It's just... you just play silly games in this house and do silly things when there's nothing to do, so you just find ways of trying to entertain yourself. Today's been another day which has been really tough for everyone because we've not had anything to do again. And it's getting to that point now where everyone's, like, 'Ugh'. I never meant for it to be that way, and if it was that way, then I apologise. Big Brother Jo, just to be clear, do you understand that the word, and any inference using rhyming slang of that word, could consider... could be considered to be racially offensive? Jo Yes. Big Brother Jo, Big Brother will not tolerate any racist behaviour or anything that could be seen to be racist behaviour in the Big Brother house. Jo Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm not a... I'm not racist at all, though. That's the thing. I'm really, really not. Really not. I've not seen eye-to-eye with Shilpa throughout this whole game, and I'm not going to start pretending that she's my best friend but she's a... I've got on a lot better with her today than I have throughout the whole show. Big Brother Why do you think that is? Jo I have got no idea. I really, really don't know, but... I just think the group is slowly starting to get smaller now and you've got to start spending time with different people, because people are going. I think, is it six people, have left now. And I suppose, as the group gets smaller and the people you're left with, you... you have to communicate more and talk more with, so I've been speaking a lot more today, and I've spoken a lot more to Jermaine today as well. We've been playing games. And I know that I'm not a racist person because my cousin is married to an Indian and half of the side of, like, that side of my family are all Indian. So I'm not a racist person at all. All my cou... I'd say, well... my cousin's married to an Indian man and they've got four children and all their... his family interact with my family, so I'm surrounded by Indians a lot, because they're part of my family, so I wouldn't be racist. My cousins are Indian. Big Brother Jo, as a result of this incident, Big Brother has no option but to issue you with your first and only formal warning. Jo Okay. Big Brother Any further incidents could result in your immediate eviction. Jo Okay. So I've had a warning and that's my last one. Big Brother Correct. Jo Okay. Big Brother Jo, Big Brother would ask that you exercise care in the future. Jo Yes, I will, and I'm very, very sorry. Big Brother Big Brother would also like to remind you that, as always, all diary room conversations between Big Brother and housemates are confidential. Jo Okay. Big Brother Do you understand? Jo Yes, I do. Big Brother Jo, Big Brother has arranged for you to have a short conversation, off camera - Jo Okay. Big Brother With Steven, the psychologist. A brief chat to talk through this matter in confidence, for your benefit. Jo Okay. Big Brother Big Brother will now hand over to Steven. Jo Okay. Big Brother There may be a short pause while we ensure that the diary room is not being recorded. Jo Thank you. Big Brother Thanks, Jo. Jo Thanks. Saturday 20th January 2007 Approx. 20:20 - DIARY ROOM WITH JACK TWEED: Jack Hello. Big Brother Hello, Jack. Jack Hello. Big Brother Jack, please could you switch off your microphone and take the battery out, please? You should know that you are still being recorded. Jack Done Big Brother Thanks. Jack, please listen carefully. Jack Okay. Big Brother Big Brother would like to, first of all, make very clear that what we are about to talk about is a matter that Big Brother has decided to raise with you. Jack All right. Big Brother Just to be clear, this has not come from any of the other housemates. Do you understand? Jack Yeah, I understand. Big Brother Jack, it has only now come to Big Brother's attention that you have made remarks that Big Brother considers to be racially offensive. Jack Like what? Big Brother On Tuesday night, day 14 in the Big Brother house - Jack Yeah. Big Brother You and other housemates were playing a game where you were making up limericks about Shilpa. Jack Yeah. Big Brother You were using rhyming slang to replace what you called 'the "P" word'. Jack Okay. Big Brother You said the word rhymed with 'tacky'. Jack Okay. Big Brother It is clear to Big Brother, Jack, that this was a reference to the racial insult '****'. Jack Okay. Big Brother Do you understand that this is considered racially offensive language? Jack Yeah, okay. Big Brother What do you have to say about this, Jack? Jack I was explaining the word that someone that was meant to have rhymed with the word. I wasn't actually saying the word. Big Brother Do you mean you were trying to include the word in the limerick but were using another word to replace it? Jack I can't really remember what exactly happened but I think... that someone said 'I know a word that rhymes with that' and then I clocked on to what it was and then explained what the word was, but didn't actually say the word. Big Brother Do you remember why... how the word came up in the first place? Jack No, I can't remember. Big Brother Do you remember playing the limerick game that night? Jack Sort of. Big Brother Do you remember who was playing it? Jack No. Me, Jade, Cleo, Jo and Danielle. Big Brother And where you were playing it? Jack In the lounge. Big Brother And do you remember the approximate time that you were playing it at? Jack No, I'm not sure. Big Brother Any idea? Jack No, I wouldn't... No, sorry, I wouldn't have a clue. Big Brother Was it afternoon, early evening, late evening? Jack Late evening, I'd say. Big Brother Jack, do you understand that the 'P' word - pa** - Jack Yeah. Big Brother Is considered to be racist? Jack Yeah, I fully understand. Big Brother And that simply by replacing the word with a word that rhymes with it doesn't take away from the racial insult? Jack I wasn't saying it to anyone. I was explaining what the word... what the word is. That's why, in a conversation, you're allowed to say, 'The word "****" is a racist remark'. That's why you're allowed to say it. So I wasn't saying, 'That girl is a ****'; I was saying 'the word is that'. Big Brother You've suggested that the word 'tacky' could be included in a limerick. Correct? Jack Yeah, I think so, yeah. Big Brother So would it be fair to say that you were making light of the inclusion of the word '****' in a limerick with the group. Jack I think so, yeah. I can't really remember the whole conversation that we had. Big Brother Jack, was the limerick about Shilpa? Jack I think... I really can't remember. I think so. I don't know. Big Brother Jack, Big Brother is going to remind you of the limerick. Jack Okay. Big Brother Jo began: 'There once was a house that was happy'. You then said: 'Until...' Jo said: 'And then there entered...' Cleo then interrupted and said, 'You are all going to BB prison'. Jo said: 'And then there entered a nappy'. You then said: 'Or, if you say, "Or along came some people who was tacky"'. Jack Yeah. So that wasn't referring to the word '****'. That was just people who was tacky. Big Brother Jack, in a previous conversation, you had substituted the word 'tacky' for the word '****'. Jack In that limerick just then, I wasn't at all suggesting that the word was meant to be '****'. I was saying tacky, as in tacky people. I wasn't - not at all. Big Brother Jack, do you understand that some people may consider what you said to be racially offensive? Jack Yeah, some people who got the wrong end of the stick, I would, yeah. Can I just ask: is this... What, is this out in the paper, because if it is, I'd rather just leave now. Big Brother Jack, Big Brother wants you to understand that this word could be considered to be racist. Do you understand that? Jack Yeah, I understand that. Big Brother And that Big Brother will not tolerate any racist behaviour or anything that could be seen to be racist behaviour in the Big Brother house? Jack Yeah. Big Brother Jack, as a result of this incident, Big Brother is now issuing you with your first and only formal warning about this. Jack Okay. Big Brother Any further incidents could result in your immediate eviction. Jack Okay. Could I just... Can you just please tell me if this is out in the paper or anything like that, if anything's out there suggesting, because if it is, I'd rather just leave now. Big Brother Jack, just listen for a second. Jack Okay. Big Brother Big Brother would ask that you exercise some care in the future with your language. Jack Yeah. Big Brother And Big Brother would like to remind you that, as always, all diary room conversations between Big Brother and housemates are confidential. Jack Okay. Big Brother Do you understand? Jack Yeah. Thank you. Big Brother Jack, Big Brother has arranged for you to have a short conversation, off-camera, with Steven, the psychologist, to talk through this matter in confidence. Jack Right. Big Brother Big Brother will now hand over to Steven. There may be a short pause while we ensure that the diary room is not being recorded. Jack Okay. Big Brother Okay? Jack Okay. Thank you. * What do YOU think? Should Jade, Jack, Jo and Danielle be punished further? NO ___________________________________ Right, this is how it is okay, Jade Goody, Jo O'Meara, Danielle Lloyd, Jack Tweed & Cleo Rocos were having a little game of limericks(Jokes) Of the five housemates there, only four disliked Shilpa Shetty. (Cleo Rocos was not one of them) so let's take her out of the equasion for starters. This leaves:- Jade, Jo, Danielle & Jack This article is about the word which rhymes with:- "Tacky" Big Brother has made this very clear in the Diary Room to Jack Tweed & Jo O'Meara and gave them warnings for saying a limerick which is referring to the (P) word which rhymes with "Tacky" Both Jack & Jo did mean the (P) word and both did not like Shilpa Shetty Jade Goody & Danielle Lloyd, also (Both) knew what the word "Tacky" rhymes with. (Both) would understand that it is a racial word to. The (P) word, that is. So what am I saying and why am I saying this???? Well, it is simple.......... You walk into a working mens club and they have a comedian there. He comes on stage and tells jokes. The jokes are about loads of things and amongst those jokes, a racist joke slips out again and again and again. So, You go out to HMV or Woolworths or Virgin or Music Zone or whatever and amongst the DVD's, there will be a comedy section, "Stand-Up comedy section". There are comedians who are quite racist with their jokes and some who do it occasionally. These are very available to anybody over the age of 18, or maybe 15? Anybody.............. When you walk into a pub or you are out with your friends, there is always a chance of someone coming up with a joke, with a racist angle to it, This is life. So, back to the CBB5 incident... Jade, Jo, Danielle & Jack were having a bit of fun over limericks, that's all... But, Jack & Jo ventured towards the word "Tacky" and BB doesn't miss a thing you know. No point lying. BB is watching you and there are camera's and microphones everywhere. So face facts.. The fact is, this was a "Racist joke in disguise" Nothing nasty!! But just a joke, just like a comedian! It is obvious that the housemates just did not realise the implications which may have followed from this. Jo O'Meara is NOT a racist person, so don't try labelling that to her. Jack Tweed is NOT a racist person, so don't start labelling that to him either. You can be NOT RACIST, but, laugh at a joke, "Just done in jest", even if it is Racist!!! It is humour!! If I saw an Indian comedian cracking jokes about a White person, I wouldn't find it offensive. If someone does find it offensive, all they have to do is turn the channel over or walk away. That is a personal choice. But Endemol have chosen to NOT show this and if this is true evidence, then they did their job correctly. Do Not Blame JO & JACK for this harmless bit of jesting..!! It is just a joke, a limerick, (That's IT) Bernard Manning turned up at a secret club, where everyone there was a police officer, sergent, inspector, etc..etc.. and Bernard said loads of racist jokes and officers who were NOT white, were laughing. "Police Officers". It is comedy and if somebody finds it offensive, then Endemol has to understand what can offend and edit it out. They did that with this "Tacky" limerick and that is it... Bringing all this un-necessary stuff up is stupid and won't get anyone anywhere. If Jade, Jo, Danielle, Jack had said something really nasty & racial. Making their opinions of what they think of Indian people and it was really horrible and obvious that any or all were racist(Full-Time), then I would understand this. But that isn't the case and what evidence they do have, just won't wash and it is stupid and pointless and crazy. Put things in perspective.... _____________________________________________ _____________________________________________ nodisharmony :angel: |
I think Jack and Jo WERE the ringleaders, D.S is right.
Even though I thought Jade was the worst, I believe her and Danielle did nothing that bad tbh |
Someone said in the paper...that they heard Jack call Shilpa a p***i. But that was completely over looked, they just pinned the blame on the 'so-called-ringleader' Jade. When the Jack comment was brought up, the bb producers said 'he said she's a piece of yacky*
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Risible pathetic jibberish. "Not racist - its just like a comedian" The post is littered with comments and insinuation such as that and it is deliberately excusing racism. Why don't you go up to a bunch of Asian blokes in the street and "have a little game of limericks", ending it with the obvious rhyme for tacky - then before you get your lights punched out- tell them its just like what comedians do and you can buy it in HMV so they shouldn't be offended. I wonder if you'll even get to finish the sentence ?. Apologists for racists are as bad as the racists themselves. Your true colours are known - and this grasping round for an excuse now that incidents have the official stamp on them, and its what normal thinking people knew from the beginning, and we now know that even the producers knew they were being racist at the time - makes you even more of a pathetic apologist than previously thought If they were "full time" racists you would understand people having a bad opinion of them ??........ that says everything about you that needs to be said and none of it is good |
the race row verdict
big brother has to apoligise before EVERY episode of the next series, what a joke.
i hope this year is just as controversial, they moan that they should not have shown the racist footage, well yes they should otherwise it would not have been brought to people's attention and we could not complain, not that i did. if they did not show it would we have allowed jad to get further, or even win. editorial misjudgment, no, they had to show it, we have all been racist once, big brother was supposed to be a social experiment and, once it finally reaches that, we moan, this is what britian is sometimes like and this is what some people are, we should not complain but try and change peoples attitude. prejudice, even though this was not, will never be irradicated. face it, people will always be like this. does it really make a difference if it is shown on television, saying it does not happen is blissful ignorance. |
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Yeah Stu's right. London Lite also reported last night it was before every episode. They scramble to put reports out without checking the facts.
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