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Epic. 23-05-2018 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10004021)
Perched for Vanessa to come and say he can kill his dog if he wants because he is so sexy

He looks ****ing hideous too, like a giant rat

Mystic Mock 23-05-2018 03:41 PM

People like Bear just want attention rather than thinking about anyone else, or in this case his pet.

Jason. 23-05-2018 04:00 PM

If only the title were just the first three words :(

MB. 23-05-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10004021)
Perched for Vanessa to come and say he can kill his dog if he wants because he is so sexy

"I can't believe Bear killed his puppy yet still hasn't murdered my pussy :("

MB. 23-05-2018 04:07 PM

(I'm really sorry)

Crimson Dynamo 23-05-2018 04:08 PM

Lol

RileyH 23-05-2018 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 10004240)
"I can't believe Bear killed his puppy yet still hasn't murdered my pussy :("

Omg :joker::joker::joker:

kirklancaster 23-05-2018 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason. (Post 10004235)
If only the title were just the first three words :(

:laugh2: BRILLIANT and I echo your sentiment.

Cal. 23-05-2018 04:18 PM

I hope he dies.

Withano 23-05-2018 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 10003909)
Well he always was a moron - but the bigger the moron the more some like them.

It is all about him - he wanted a puppy for whatever reason and cared little for doing the best for the puppy. I wouldn’t give a damn if something happened to him as he is a pretty worthless human being in my eyes.

agree with everything, and unfortunately, especially the bit in bold.

Beso 23-05-2018 04:31 PM

Maybe he was just following the vets advice...

How long will my dog take to recover from surgery?(back to top)
It is extraordinary how quickly most animals become mobile after amputation of a leg. Patients that have no other mobility issues, for example osteoarthritis, should be able to go for a lead walk within 24 hours of the operation. Young dogs, dogs of slim build and dogs with a weeks-long history of lameness affecting the amputated limb can be expected to start walking on three legs after only 12 hours.

Brillopad 23-05-2018 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10004277)
Maybe he was just following the vets advice...

How long will my dog take to recover from surgery?(back to top)
It is extraordinary how quickly most animals become mobile after amputation of a leg. Patients that have no other mobility issues, for example osteoarthritis, should be able to go for a lead walk within 24 hours of the operation. Young dogs, dogs of slim build and dogs with a weeks-long history of lameness affecting the amputated limb can be expected to start walking on three legs after only 12 hours.

It was about the risk of infection though as he had taken the puppy from his mother too soon and was more at risk of infection - and then ignored the vets advice. The poor thing died of infection due an uncaring irresponsible owner.

Beso 23-05-2018 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 10004279)
It was about the risk of infection though as he had taken the puppy from his mother too soon and was more at risk of infection - and then ignored the vets advice. The poor thing died of infection due an uncaring irresponsible owner.

I wouldnt say uncaring.

Beso 23-05-2018 04:41 PM

If you look at the photos in the news story originally posted the dog looks a lot lot older than 4-6 weeks...looks more like 2-3 months to me...the one in the garden.

Withano 23-05-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10004288)
If you look at the photos in the news story originally posted the dog looks a lot lot older than 4-6 weeks...looks more like 2-3 months to me...the one in the garden.

Would it change anything if the dog looked physically older than it actually was?

Beso 23-05-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 10004292)
Would it change anything if the dog looked physically older than it actually was?


Yeah it does.


He got the dog early..ok.

The dog became unwell and was put on a drip to feed it....the drip was put in the dogs paw but that became infected resulting in an amputation......

Young dogs recover quick and can be walked 24 hours after the op...bear just exercised it in his garden instead...

He has been seen in wooded areas and parks with the dog so im assuming its not the size if his hand.

Therefore perhaps it could be said that the infection had nothing to do with him getting the dog early as it was picked up months later...just before the 12 week booster jag.

Cherie 23-05-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10004313)
Yeah it does.


He got the dog early..ok.

The dog became unwell and was put on a drip to feed it....the drip was put in the dogs paw but that became infected resulting in an amputation......

Young dogs recover quick and can be walked 24 hours after the op...bear just exercised it in his garden instead...

He has been seen in wooded areas and parks with the dog so im assuming its not the size if his hand.

Therefore perhaps it could be said that the infection had nothing to do with him getting the dog early as it was picked up months later...just before the 12 week booster jag.


But you are not meant to take a dog out into public areas until their jabs are fully complete, it’s a simple enough condition to folloe

Amy Jade 23-05-2018 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10004277)
Maybe he was just following the vets advice...

How long will my dog take to recover from surgery?(back to top)
It is extraordinary how quickly most animals become mobile after amputation of a leg. Patients that have no other mobility issues, for example osteoarthritis, should be able to go for a lead walk within 24 hours of the operation. Young dogs, dogs of slim build and dogs with a weeks-long history of lameness affecting the amputated limb can be expected to start walking on three legs after only 12 hours.

If you would allow a puppy who had just had a leg amputated due to infection outside to walk around less than 24 hours after the operation then you're a poor excuse for a dog owner. I pray you never get a pet and if you already have one I pray for that poor animal too.

Beso 23-05-2018 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10004320)
But you are not meant to take a dog out into public areas until their jabs are fully complete, it’s a simple enough condition to folloe

Ive just read a bit more on it...

He didnt take it walks, he was just letting it out in the garden from when he got it, as advised by the vet.

Thats when the dog became unwell...so much so it couldnt eat and needed to be drip fed..

it must have got better because the infection on the leg began when the wound from the drip became infected after it was removed..the vets bandage was to tight and the dog lost circulation in the leg which resulted in the amputation....sorry but sounds to me like a vets **** up.

Beso 23-05-2018 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10004336)
If you would allow a puppy who had just had a leg amputated due to infection outside to walk around less than 24 hours after the operation then you're a poor excuse for a dog owner. I pray you never get a pet and if you already have one I pray for that poor animal too.

Check your facts amy, and i suggest you dont start with the daily.star or 2 random instagramers...

Twosugars 23-05-2018 05:44 PM

Regardless, somebody should (and I hope, has) report him to RSPCA. Let them investigate and prosecute if they find anybody (breeder, owner or vet) guilty.

Matthew. 23-05-2018 05:45 PM

the man is a disgrace to humanity

Amy Jade 23-05-2018 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10004348)
Check your facts amy, and i suggest you dont start with the daily.star or 2 random instagramers...

There are multiple sources if you google it. You fact check if you so desire but the facts are pretty damning!

Amy Jade 23-05-2018 06:16 PM

https://static.ok.co.uk/media/images...d1ffd56170.jpg

Poor innocent little thing </3

Maru 23-05-2018 06:35 PM

Amy, I'm like you. My blood boils when I hear about animal abuse. I'm the same way about the elderly as well, as they often can't speak up for themselves. It's a major problem where I am with our stray population and year-round mating season. Strays get picked up and used as bait. Some people should just not own animals, but things will not change until people hold breeders accountable and people start speaking up. Much less getting charges filed...

It's a little strange he died so suddenly, but if he had an infection that required amputation, he could've gone septic with a poor immune system given he's just a pup... possibly the shot was a long-term antibiotic that they sometimes send the animals home with and it may not have been enough. So I'm not sure it is Bear's fault, just because we don't know the full story really, but probably he was not fit to "nurse" the animal. The puppy should've remained overnight with the vet if he was in that poor of shape. Between the pup's age and the state of it's health (plus losing a limb), it likely had a very poor immune system to begin with and was simply overtaxed. We had a Jack Russell that was full grown, but it had gotten in a fight and had numerous bites all over. He passed overnight in his crate just because of the shear trauma on it's b ody... but he wasn't really much for eating or playing in those hours, so it's not like it was so sudden. He wasn't bleeding or anything and he was in good care (my uncle was studying to be a vet then), but because his body simply gave out. That does happen when there is that much trauma in a short period of time.

As for breeders... they only care about profit 9 times out of 10, so probably they didn't take adequate precuations. Though sometimes getting them away from the breeder is far better for their health than not, with their inability to sometimes isolate the animal and also the risk of diseases being spread through contact with shared living spaces.

There's a rescue that I follow that takes regular trips out-of-state to pull the pups that have been used for breeding out of that life... the medical issues and state of many of them is just appalling. The regulations here are a joke... many of them sit in their own excrement in cages not large enough for them to even stand... and they spend their entire lives like this. It's a wonderful rescue... so if the dog was amputated, it could've also been because of the conditions of the breeding facility... which often in itself creates a lot of health issues. Diseases and infections are easy to spread also in those environments...

https://www.facebook.com/LoneStarRescue


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