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Originally Posted by Ashley.
(Post 10042629)
What exactly are you annoyed about? That your "right" to peer up a non-consenting woman's skirt has the potential of being taken away from you? Poor you. Meanwhile, woman are being made to feel uncomfortable on a day-to-day basis because of men who aren't getting any back at home.
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Ashley
That is close to libel, I have no wish to engage in such an obnoxious activity. Do not ascribe to me motives you think I have for not jumping on a favoured bandwagon and putting forward an alternative viewpoint.
This is tantamount to mud slinging, which is never appropriate in a debate.
Dezzy
I cite that lady I mentioned, because it was a counter argument to the Jodie Foster film - The Accused argument, which you are citing, and it did not come from a man as one might expect. It was a women commenting on other women and how they need to take some responsibility over how they prevent unwanted attention from certain reprobate men instead of playing the victim.
You complain of a lack of a line of condemnation of this antisocial activity, I thought when I said "taking into account that some men are uncouth and hedonistic." would have covered it. I am referring to such men in a negative light with condemnatory words, such as uncouth and hedonistic. By use of such language it should be obvious that I was not endorsing such actions by those individuals.
If that was too subtle, then of course I condemn those who do this antisocial and [insert descriptive word of your choice] activity.
I would not be an apologist for such deviants and have not been so. I have spoken in the defence of the actions of a solitary MP who is opposed to knee-jerk legislation being rushed through the House on the QT without proper debate or scrutiny, which is undemocratic.
Returning to women wearing trousers, I find it strange that I am castigated for recommending that, especially as in the early days of feminism women were criticised and condemned for wanting to wear trousers instead of skirts or dresses. If you take a walk down any high street in any city, you will notice that most women now wear trousers or some form of leggins. So many women are taking action, which either , intentionally or unintentionally, will thwart those deviants who wish to engage in upskirting
On another tack, it is known that some women go to self defence classes so they know how to protect themselves should a man try to indecently assault them. Should we advise them not to go for such training as it is victim blaming?
Is it victim blaming when a crime prevention officer advises women what to do if they need to go out after dark to try and stay safe
Again is it victim blaming to advise people to lock their doors when they go out or at night because we are not dealing with the thieves who break in?
There has been an issue over the years where knee-jerk legislation gets rammed through the House and it causes problems down the line. The best example of such was the Dangerous Dogs Act.
