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Alf 20-06-2018 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10049442)
The fact they're not white is the punchline though.

Are you outraged by this?

Livia 20-06-2018 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10049454)
But... this aint a chat thread. :hee: So, unless it's relevant to the topic I'm baffled by its inclusion.

Just trying to lighten things a bit Marshy and stop all you nutters fighting.

I will remove it.

Niamh. 20-06-2018 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10049458)
Just trying to lighten things a bit Marshy and stop all you nutters fighting.

I will remove it.

I thought it was funny :hehe:

Livia 20-06-2018 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10049460)
I thought it was funny :hehe:

Thank you, Niamh. It is funny because it's true.

Anyhoo, taken it down now, don't want Marshy getting his yfronts in a knot.

Marsh. 20-06-2018 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10049456)
Are you outraged by this?

No. And whether I was outraged or not doesn't deflect from the fact that the actual purpose of this joke was to poke fun at Africans.

If it's not to poke fun at them, there is no joke there. Do you see?

Marsh. 20-06-2018 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10049463)
Thank you, Niamh. It is funny because it's true.

Anyhoo, taken it down now, don't want Marshy getting his yfronts in a knot.

No knots here. Just thought it was a poor attempt at finding a white man joke. :smug:

Livia 20-06-2018 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10049468)
No knots here. Just thought it was a poor attempt at finding a white man joke. :smug:

I wasn't trying to find a white man joke I looked for a football joke. I was trying to deflect from the uproar caused by such a mild joke. I see no intent in it, and yet, despite the crap going on in the world, people are going to waste their energy reacting to it.

Marsh. 20-06-2018 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10049475)
I wasn't trying to find a white man joke I looked for a football joke. I was trying to deflect from the uproar caused by such a mild joke. I see no intent in it, and yet, despite the crap going on in the world, people are going to waste their energy reacting to it.

Tbf, I don't think many people see racist intention in it. I actually like Lord Sugar.

He was just dumb to think a racist joke wouldn't be taken the way it has been.

Crimson Dynamo 20-06-2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10049466)
No. And whether I was outraged or not doesn't deflect from the fact that the actual purpose of this joke was to poke fun at Africans.

If it's not to poke fun at them, there is no joke there. Do you see?

and what is wrong with poking fun at Africans?

Marsh. 20-06-2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10049488)
and what is wrong with poking fun at Africans?

Nothing. There's nothing wrong with poking fun at anyone.

Making their race the butt of the joke, however, is.

Twosugars 20-06-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10049439)
A mistake apologising, now the vultures will swarm in, just like they did when Roseanne apologised.

Alf you're so exasperating :nono:
Can't you be consistent and talk sense THROUGHOUT a thread? :laugh:
You started well and then you went and dragged Roseanne into this.
Sugar's tweet was nowhere near as offensive as Roseanne's
Sugar tried to be funny and misjudged, Roseanne oth is racist

Marsh. 20-06-2018 01:38 PM

Tbf, Roseanne always tries to be funny with her racist comments.

Alf 20-06-2018 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10049466)
No. And whether I was outraged or not doesn't deflect from the fact that the actual purpose of this joke was to poke fun at Africans.

If it's not to poke fun at them, there is no joke there. Do you see?

But you see that this happens both ways right? You do know I could find some videos of Black comedians making jokes about White people, for just being White, don't you? And we'd all more than likely laugh at them too.

Nicky91 20-06-2018 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10049493)
Nothing. There's nothing wrong with poking fun at anyone.

Making their race the butt of the joke, however, is.

it's ok to joke at anyone, as long as you keep it funny and it's not racist


but Lord Sugar apologized for this now, so hopefully his humour can improve from now on

Twosugars 20-06-2018 01:39 PM

calling sb a monkey? not funny

Marsh. 20-06-2018 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10049504)
calling sb a monkey? not funny

I don't recall saying it was. However, Roseanne thinks it is, ergo she says it for a laugh. The point being made.

You don't think she simply makes the comparison? She makes the comparison as her idea of a laugh and a joke to mock someone she doesn't like.

Marsh. 20-06-2018 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10049502)
But you see that this happens both ways right? You do know I could find some videos of Black comedians making jokes about White people, for just being White, don't you? And we'd all more than likely laugh at them too.

Knock yourself out, doesn't make your belief these kind of jokes aren't racist any less wrong.

Kazanne 20-06-2018 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10049247)
People seem to have lost their sense of humour now that everyone is offended by everything.

Got in there before me Livia,:hehe: I totally agree,people just seem to want to find something to whinge at today,I thought it funny too:laugh:

Marsh. 20-06-2018 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10049511)
Got in there before me Livia,:hehe: I totally agree,people just seem to want to find something to whinge at today,I thought it funny too:laugh:

Yes, because you really have to search hard to see racism in a racist joke.

Twosugars 20-06-2018 01:56 PM

but why is it a racist joke?
he could have said that about any team from a country known for enterprising migrants
why not Polish team full of plumbers and builders? Idgi

Twosugars 20-06-2018 01:57 PM

but why is it a racist joke?
he could have said that about any team from a country known for enterprising migrants
why not Polish team full of plumbers and builders? Idgi

Marsh. 20-06-2018 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10049529)
but why is it a racist joke?

Because the punchline is based on being derogatory about Africans... based on them being African.

Twosugars 20-06-2018 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10049533)
Because the punchline is based on being derogatory about Africans... based on them being African.

it's about them doing two jobs, selling sunglasses in Spain and playing football for Senegal
enterprising migrants comes to mind, not skin colour
no, I don't get it, sorry sis :shrug:
nvm

Alf 20-06-2018 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10049533)
Because the punchline is based on being derogatory about Africans... based on them being African.

So what do you think should happen now?

Should the Police get involved?
Should the BBC fire him?
Should he be branded a racist for the rest of his days?
Should he give money to a charity?
Or now that he's apologised, shall we just move on?
Or something else?

Marsh. 20-06-2018 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10049559)
it's about them doing two jobs, selling sunglasses in Spain and playing football for Senegal
enterprising migrants comes to mind, not skin colour
no, I don't get it, sorry sis :shrug:
nvm

You don't see where race comes into it?

So, he'd have used this joke alongside an image of ANY football team then, right?


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