Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10072949)

By hitting them? :think:

Lets see how this goes parmnion

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10073110)

It's legit worrying that some people think hitting a "big dog" is a good idea :umm2:. Keep it away from children because all you're doing is creating a big aggressive dog. The reason it doesn't bite back at the person doing the hitting is that it thinks that person is above them in the pecking order. And it thinks that the thing to do to anyone below them in the pecking order, is hurt them to assert themself.

In other words; it's going to lash out at other animals, other humans, and especially kids. Well done.

Despite people thinking that dogs are "super smart" - they are not. What they are is easily trained, because they are NOT all that smart, dog psychology is really very basic and all you have to do to assert yourself as your dog's pack leader is act like it. Stand over it, use a strong voice, always GIVE it food (never allow it to TAKE food from you) et voila. No hitting required.

Dogs are susceptible to pavlovian response; action = reward. They have no concept of negative consequence. They have literally no idea why they're being hit, and don't attach the "punishment" to the specific act that you're punishing them for, they just think you're randomly hitting them to gain submission.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10073200)

Kids and dogs have different roles in life though,so I think you do have to treat them differently, kids need to be taught the rights and wrongs of life and their punishments will be greater, I mean dogs wont be half as much work as a child, we have to use common sense with both. Children are a totally different ball game and very demanding.

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10074157)

I don’t think concepts like submission apply to a dog.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10073136)

Id like to watch that chuffle as my nephew sees it as a career move cause his pops kept alsations all his life..any idea what it was called?

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10074157)

I don’t think concepts like submission apply to a dog.

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10074157)

I don’t think concepts like submission apply to a dog.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10074170)

That happy crazy excitement when you come home? That's not "I'm so happy to see you!", that's "OH THANK GOD I was worried that I might starve!"

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10074191)

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl...lly-experience

According to that study dogs’ emotions stop just after love (the 2-year-old human equivalent).

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10074203)

Submission isn't an emotion though, it's a behaviour

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10074206)

I was talking about love there though.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10074211)

right, well submission as others have said apply to dogs in a big way, ever heard of Top Dog or Alpha dog? :laugh:

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10074214)

I was being a little tongue-in-cheek when I made that comment about submission. It obviously applies to them on a biological level in a big way but there’s just something about the way TS worded submission. In the emotional human sense but I knew what he meant. Only the wording sounded funny that’s all.

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10074227)

LMAO. Are dog matters really that deep?

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10074227)

LMAO. Are dog matters really that deep?

Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10074191)

https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl...lly-experience

According to that study dogs’ emotions stop just after love (the 2-year-old human equivalent).