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Redway 13-07-2018 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10086116)
What did he say about his daughter, that passed me by?

The views of those white Southerners are evidently a minority in the USA, and increasingly so!

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...sexist-9013070

Tom4784 13-07-2018 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10086069)
Middle Eastern muslims throw gays off roofs, while in Indonesia 93% of muslims think being gay is unacceptable, and even in London only half of muslims think being gay is okay. There might be superficial differences country to country, but the same crap comes up.

You mean extremists that belong to terrorist organisations, right? Suggesting that all muslims in the middle east do or support that is a dangerously ignorant statement.

Most religions demonise the gays, you can't pick on muslims for it when a good chunk of all religious people believe that homosexuality is a sin. Conversion therapy is a real and present danger and that's something that is purely western in nature.

If you're going to hate on a religion, hate on them all since a lot of the points you're hitting on is not exclusive to muslims.

Tom4784 13-07-2018 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 10086105)
Trump is correct in what he has stated and THAT subject is what this thread should be about.

Except he isn't correct about anything he's said about the UK. He knows nothing of UK culture or culture in general. Anybody who thinks that culture is a static thing doesn't understand what culture is.

Kazanne 13-07-2018 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10086116)
What did he say about his daughter, that passed me by?

The views of those white Southerners are evidently a minority in the USA, and increasingly so!

It's probably come from some rag top newpaper,or the silly made up stuff from his detractors,all hearsay,until proved

Oliver_W 13-07-2018 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10086134)

Here's the full exchange:
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“By the way, your daughter,” Stern said to Trump.

“She’s beautiful,” the brash businessman responded.

“Can I say this? A piece of ass,” Stern asked.

“Yeah,” Trump replied.
So rather than referring to her that way himself, he said that a "shock jock" on an R-rated radio show could say it.

Smithy 13-07-2018 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10086109)
Stopping Illegal Migrants
is Not Racist , though

Where in the article does it state he’s talking about illegal migrants?

It doesn’t

Crimson Dynamo 13-07-2018 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10086168)
Where in the article does it state he’s talking about illegal migrants?

It doesn’t

The UK has no idea what migrants are legal or illegal so that is a null point

Brillopad 13-07-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10085974)
What culture? Pork pies, the EDL, and coal mines?

Good riddance

Maybe you have no culture - others of us do! The usual if you don't value something it doesn't exist nonsense. Speak for yourself - not the rest of us!

Smithy 13-07-2018 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 10086185)
Maybe you have no culture - others of us do! The usual if you don't value something it doesn't exist nonsense. Speak for yourself - not the rest of us!

What is British culture that’s being threatened then?

Brillopad 13-07-2018 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10086198)
What is British culture that’s being threatened then?

If you don't FEEL it you don't have it. It shouldn't need pointing out unless of course people just take everything our culture offers for granted because they know nothing different.

Twosugars 13-07-2018 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10086184)
The UK has no idea what migrants are legal or illegal so that is a null point

That's the UK fault, without border control and id cards you can't do it properly

Smithy 13-07-2018 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 10086220)
If you don't FEEL it you don't have it. It shouldn't need pointing out unless of course people just take everything our culture offers for granted because they know nothing different.

So it isn’t even an actual thing, it’s just a feeling, wow that makes the whole thing even ****ing stupider

Brillopad 13-07-2018 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10086227)
So it isn’t even an actual thing, it’s just a feeling, wow that makes the whole thing even ****ing stupider

It's much more than that as anyone who actually understands would know. But as I say culture is something you feel - something that has shaped your life and understanding, that gives you rights and freedoms, that makes you feel comfortable with a sense of belonging and pride and a lot more...

Smithy 13-07-2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 10086235)
It's much more than that as anyone who actually understands would know. But as I say culture is something you feel - something that has shaped your life and understanding, that gives you rights and freedoms, that makes you feel comfortable with a sense of belonging and pride and a lot more...

And people coming here take that away from you?

How pathetic :joker:

Tom4784 13-07-2018 12:02 PM

Culture is history and tradition in part. It's not a feeling, it's certainly not something vague enough that you can deny someone's opinion on it by saying 'they don't understand.'

History and traditions are ever growing. It isn't overwritten, it just grows to encompass more and more aspects of living in Britain.

The whole idea that we are 'losing our culture' is as ignorant as when people are saying 'muslims are taking over'. It's just ignorant hysteria.

The Slim Reaper 13-07-2018 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 10086235)
It's much more than that as anyone who actually understands would know. But as I say culture is something you feel - something that has shaped your life and understanding, that gives you rights and freedoms, that makes you feel comfortable with a sense of belonging and pride and a lot more...

Culture isn't static, it's a dynamic constantly evolving thing. Curry and Kebabs are part of English culture, and yet only around 50-60 years ago, how many English people had ever tried them?

Public executions, child labour, and poor houses were part of our culture at one time, too.

Smithy 13-07-2018 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10086239)
Culture is history and tradition in part. It's not a feeling, it's certainly not something vague enough that you can deny someone's opinion on it by saying 'they don't understand.'

History and traditions are ever growing. It isn't overwritten, it just grows to encompass more and more aspects of living in Britain.

The whole idea that we are 'losing our culture' is as ignorant as when people are saying 'muslims are taking over'. It's just ignorant hysteria.

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10086241)
Culture isn't static, it's a dynamic constantly evolving thing. Curry and Kebabs are part of English culture, and yet only around 50-60 years ago, how many English people had ever tried them?

Public executions, child labour, and poor houses were part of our culture at one time, too.

:clap1:


“It’s a feeling”

What a load of bollocks, just an excuse to spout racist tosh

Crimson Dynamo 13-07-2018 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10086227)
So it isn’t even an actual thing, it’s just a feeling, wow that makes the whole thing even ****ing stupider

If there was a thread about gay culture i am quite sure your posts would not be attacking the word culture


:facepalm:

Tom4784 13-07-2018 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10086246)
If there was a thread about gay culture i am quite sure your posts would not be attacking the word culture


:facepalm:

Gay culture is a real thing though. It isn't a feeling, it's a history.

The battles for equal rights, the arts, history, speech and traditions. It's tangible and real.

Smithy 13-07-2018 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10086246)
If there was a thread about gay culture i am quite sure your posts would not be attacking the word culture
:facepalm:

That’s because I’m not ****ing ***** enough to claim that culture is a feeling :joker::joker::joker::joker:

The Slim Reaper 13-07-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10086246)
If there was a thread about gay culture i am quite sure your posts would not be attacking the word culture


:facepalm:

What does that have to do with anything? The discussion is the supposed harm migrants/refugees/asylum seekers are doing to english/british culture.

Brillopad 13-07-2018 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10086255)
That’s because I’m not ****ing ***** enough to claim that culture is a feeling :joker::joker::joker::joker:

You clearly lack understanding if you don't get what I mean by 'feel'. Your problem not mine.

Smithy 13-07-2018 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 10086262)
You clearly lack understanding if you don't get what I mean by 'feel'. Your problem not mine.

:laugh3::laugh3:

The Slim Reaper 13-07-2018 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 10086262)
You clearly lack understanding if you don't get what I mean by 'feel'. Your problem not mine.

Fighting Double Standards :laugh3:

Crimson Dynamo 13-07-2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10086253)
Gay culture is a real thing though. It isn't a feeling, it's a history.

The battles for equal rights, the arts, history, speech and traditions. It's tangible and real.

as is English, scottish Irish culture etc


i am glad you agree


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