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Denver 29-07-2018 11:40 PM

Chelsea are about to have their team torn apart and hardly anybody wants to join them

Crimson Dynamo 30-07-2018 08:30 AM

Manchester United tour turns into a FARCE ahead of Real Madrid test
 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...g?imwidth=1000

A difficult pre-season is threatening to lurch into a farce for Manchester United as manager Jose Mourinho heads into their final game in the USA against European champions Real Madrid without as many as 17 senior players.

United head for the humidity and tropical storms of Miami with dark clouds hovering over them and a manager whose mood flicks between exasperated and foreboding.

Mourinho has been on a damage limitation exercise for several days, claiming after a heavy 4-1 defeat to Liverpool in Michigan that they are merely trying to prevent “ugly results” because of how weak the teams he can put out have become.

Already deprived of more than half of his first choice starting XI because of their World Cup commitments, injuries have now decimated his squad and Mourinho is worried as we move towards the start of the serious business of a new domestic campaign.

It is difficult not to feel some sympathy for the Portuguese, who was already concerned about the lack of preparation time, so to lose players like Antonio Valencia and Nemanja Matic to injuries that will sideline them for several weeks has been a disaster.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...g?imwidth=1000



United look in disarray less than two weeks before the start of the Premier League campaign, with Mourinho also painting a gloomy picture of their recruitment process, a source of tension that will not be easy to resolve given there are only 11 days left in this transfer window and Leicester City are determined not to sell their top transfer target, centre-back Harry Maguire.

Although international players like Paul Pogba, Romelu Lukaku and David De Gea will be available for their first game against Leicester on August 10th, they will not have played a game for three weeks and may well not have trained properly either.

"I just hope the boys on deserved holidays, they take care of themselves a little bit,” Mourinho said after the second-half collapse against Liverpool. “And somebody wants to do what [Marcus] Rashford and [Phil] Jones do, which is to be back a little bit earlier to try and help the team, because, for the beginning of the season we are going to be in trouble."

Mourinho has to be careful. The short term need for players to return to training early has to balance with the need to ensure they are recharged and rested after the World Cup. He cannot put too much pressure on, particularly as he admitted last week that if you rush players back after an intense international tournament, they can suffer burn out later in the season.

Eric Bailly and Ander Herrera are the latest to cause concern, after they played almost the full 90 minutes in both games against AC Milan and Liverpool.

Mourinho has praised their commitment and dedication, revealing Bailly had asked to play on Sunday when Chris Smalling started limping in the warm up because he wanted to protect United’s young players. Neither are likely to start against Madrid, with another friendly to come next week back in Europe against Bayern Munich.

“I don't think he's a leader,” Mourinho said when revealing Bailly’s ankle is badly swollen. “I don't think anything goes to change with that. I think he's a team boy, a great boy, and an honest man, honest to put everything for the team. That is why we still have him and why he is going to stay with us because football teams need people like him and Herrera, these kind of players where the club is more important than anything else.”

For all of the concerns about Mourinho’s state of mind, there are also signs of a siege mentality being built, the sort of environment he has thrived in before. Sources have told Telegraph Sport that he is bullish behind the scenes, keen to fuel perceptions that everyone and everything is conspiring against United.

At least some of United’s youngsters have enjoyed the tour. With so many senior players missing, the likes of Andre Gomes, Tahith Chong, Demetri Mitchell and James Garner have got some precious game time in a first team environment.

It has also benefited versatile defender Timothy Fosu-Mensah, who has returned to Old Trafford from a loan spell with Crystal Palace. The thought of playing Real Madrid excites rather than scares him.

“It has been good,” he said, when asked about the tour. “We've played against quality opponents. We tried to train how we want to play so I think it has been really good for us.

“Last year I was at Crystal Palace. I think I improved there and I've come back a better player. I came back to show that I've improved and to show that I'm a better player now. I'll keep working hard and see what happens.

“I don't know when a decision will be made about my future here. I'm here on the tour and I'm focused on my training sessions and on the games. The next game is Real Madrid and we have to focus on that now.

“It's very nice to play against a good club, against good players. Some of the best in the world. It's good to have that test.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...l-madrid-test/

Cherie 30-07-2018 08:31 AM

Loving all the negative stories, you will be smiling on the other side of your face when Man U smash West 'am for the umpteenth time :hehe:

Crimson Dynamo 30-07-2018 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10115344)
Loving all the negative stories, you will be smiling on the other side of your face when Man U smash West 'am for the umpteenth time :hehe:

Man ure are in chaos

unhappy team

unhappy manager

team of crocks

no decent signings


tailspin

bots 30-07-2018 08:34 AM

So everything is going exactly to plan then. Nothing to see here, they will still finish top 3. Feel free to quote me on this :shrug:

Nicky91 30-07-2018 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10115347)
Man ure are in chaos

unhappy team

unhappy manager

team of crocks

no decent signings


tailspin

:notimpressed: we will see during the season


and maybe they will get a decent signing now, transfer market is still open

Cherie 30-07-2018 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10115347)
Man ure are in chaos

unhappy team

unhappy manager

team of crocks

no decent signings


tailspin

Fake news

Mystic Mock 30-07-2018 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10114221)
I think United will come 8th or 9th

:joker:

I think that Man Utd will be in the top 3 with Man City and Tottenham again. Liverpool is just hype from the Media because they've spent a lot of money.

Crimson Dynamo 30-07-2018 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10115402)
:joker:

I think that Man Utd will be in the top 3 with Man City and Tottenham again. Liverpool is just hype from the Media because they've spent a lot of money.

Spurs?

:laugh2:

with Loser capt Kane at the helm?

they will win F all AGAIN and finish 7th

Mystic Mock 30-07-2018 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10115405)
Spurs?

:laugh2:

with Loser capt Kane at the helm?

they will win F all AGAIN and finish 7th

I never said that Tottenham will win, but their team is a lot stronger than 7th place.:joker:

They'll definitely beat Arsenal (no offence to the Arsenal fans on here) and they can actually defend unlike Liverpool so I see them beating them, the only loose cannon that I could see stopping Tottenham from being in the top 3 is Chelsea as them and Man City have been alternating the Premier League's lately.

Crimson Dynamo 30-07-2018 09:49 AM

i think Arsenal will be strong this season and will beat Spurs home and away

Cherie 30-07-2018 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10115410)
i think Arsenal will be strong this season and will beat Spurs home and away

and everyone will be West 'am


Poor Manuel

Denver 30-07-2018 10:14 AM

Liverpool's defence is so much better with VVD now we have one of the best keepers in the world

Crimson Dynamo 30-07-2018 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10115434)
and everyone will be West 'am


Poor Manuel

The man who looks like a Roman Emperor on the side of a Roman Coin will turn us into a top 4 Behemoth

Crimson Dynamo 30-07-2018 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10115442)
Liverpool's defence is so much better with VVD now we have one of the best keepers in the world

this is why mourinio is sweating because he knows he has no chance and will lose home and away to Liverpool

the fans know this too

Denver 30-07-2018 10:16 AM

Isn't this Mourinhos 3rd season?? He always toes into meltdown in his 3rd season and finishes low down the table

Crimson Dynamo 30-07-2018 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10115447)
Isn't this Mourinhos 3rd season?? He always toes into meltdown in his 3rd season and finishes low down the table

its started already


:joker:

Crimson Dynamo 30-07-2018 10:18 AM

im not putting manu players in my fantasy team that is for sure

Nicky91 30-07-2018 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10115450)
its started already


:joker:

nah Mourinho is usually a over the top showman, so his rants don't mean anything honestly


i still have faith that the real top team from Manchester will be doing well in the season

Denver 30-07-2018 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10115450)
its started already


:joker:

He is already pissing off people above him.

I guess he is useless without a woman to bully

Nicky91 30-07-2018 10:27 AM

inbe4 Liverpool gets demolished by Man U in the premier league, which i genuinely hope now, given the amount of hate towards Man U in this thread

Denver 30-07-2018 10:28 AM

With what?? They have a terrible front 3

1 they paid 80 million to score nothing and the other is a 60 million flop

Cherie 30-07-2018 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10115443)
The man who looks like a Roman Emperor on the side of a Roman Coin will turn us into a top 4 Behemoth

I do like Manuel P tbf, he is a good manager I think you guys will do well

Denver 30-07-2018 10:30 AM

Wolves will be top 8

Nicky91 30-07-2018 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10115472)
With what?? They have a terrible front 3

1 they paid 80 million to score nothing and the other is a 60 million flop

most of the starting 11 players were still on holiday, at the time of this friendly vs Liverpool ;)


but then again in your eyes Liverpool is already the premier league champions with their worldclass signing Alisson :hehe:


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