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poppsywoppsy 08-10-2018 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10273459)
Indeed :hehe: I know its meant to be an emotional thing and we are meant to find it endearing or whatever, but it just came across really pathetic how everyone else over acted. Cian especially, when Cian already bloody knew and was the one who ****ed the gameplan in the first place :D

I can't stand Cian and am not fussed over Cameron either but as you say, the whole thing is now totally pathetic and the way they responded as if he had just come home from a war was appallingly over the top.

Cian is just horrible with his over plucked eyebrows looking like a leprechaun and telling what he would like to do to a 18 year old lad, he is a creep.

GoldHeart 08-10-2018 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 10273493)
I can't stand Cian and am not fussed over Cameron either but as you say, the whole thing is now totally pathetic and the way they responded as if he had just come home from a war was appallingly over the top.

Cian is just horrible with his over plucked eyebrows looking like a leprechaun and telling what he would like to do to a 18 year old lad, he is a creep.

:joker:

armand.kay 08-10-2018 02:45 PM

the fact that he chose to do it with nominations just round the corner really did remove any doubt I had over whether or not he's faking all of this for a storyline. in the words of BB17's Andy PEOPLE ARE BEING THROWN OFF BUILDINGS AND HE DOES THIS!!!

Basic_Rations 08-10-2018 03:52 PM

I don’t get why an 18 year old coming out is manipulating or game playing. We don’t know for sure if it was done before, during or after nominations yet. But the sneak peak on the big brother website suggests it was after. He is 18 and has most probably only just come to terms with the fact that he is gay, I know it’s 2018 but different people take different times until they feel both comfortable with themselves and comfortable in telling people. Coming out on TV is most probably one of the bravest things I’ve seen anyone do! I wouldn’t have the balls to do that.

mxhunter 08-10-2018 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10273490)
He’s worse than Helen because at least she was honest AND had some good one liners

‘Go get a wash and a hairbrush you fat bttch’

you consider that to be a 'good one liner'? really?

Dollface 08-10-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10273158)
This is literally Helen wood being a nasty horrible person all season then pulling some contrived bs last minute and winning. I thought the public would learn smh

Are you seriously likening Cameron to Helen Wood? Wtf lol

Daniel-X 08-10-2018 04:14 PM

Everyone crying omfg. I CAN’T.

Ms Cameron learned her lines though and delivered an okay performance. I’ll give him that. Must try harder tho to convince me this isn’t fake *tick*

GoldHeart 08-10-2018 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel-X (Post 10273570)
Everyone crying omfg. I CAN’T.

Ms Cameron learned her lines though and delivered an okay performance. I’ll give him that. Must try harder tho to convince me this isn’t fake *tick*

The Oscar goes toooooo
Someone ELSE !!! :joker:

JoshBB 08-10-2018 04:57 PM

Ffs, I hate that so many people are treating this story with cynicism. As a gay person myself, I relate to his story and the way he struggles to get the words out, and I find it emotional to watch.

I just can't imagine anyone would fake it, let alone be able to, and I'm saddened by the people calling him a fraud etc when he's being his authentic self

joeysteele 08-10-2018 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 10273609)
Ffs, I hate that so many people are treating this story with cynicism. As a gay person myself, I relate to his story and the way he struggles to get the words out, and I find it emotional to watch.

I just can't imagine anyone would fake it, let alone be able to, and I'm saddened by the people calling him a fraud etc when he's being his authentic self

It's really sad to come across.

The cynicism is in part, one of the reasons, for whatever reasons they are, an anxious person feeling the need to come out, fears doing so as to others reactions or judgements.

We hear a lot that this is 2018, and it shouldn't be anything to be anxious about, yet clearly from things I've read it is worrying, the cynicism directed at a young guy doing so.

Just because as to Cameron, because of wherever, whenever, to whoever and however he wishes to try to do so, or actually do so.

ConnorTheJudge 08-10-2018 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 10273497)
the fact that he chose to do it with nominations just round the corner really did remove any doubt I had over whether or not he's faking all of this for a storyline. in the words of BB17's Andy PEOPLE ARE BEING THROWN OFF BUILDINGS AND HE DOES THIS!!!

He told everyone after nominations...

poppsywoppsy 08-10-2018 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10273697)
It's really sad to come across.

The cynicism is in part, one of the reasons, for whatever reasons they are, an anxious person feeling the need to come out, fears doing so as to others reactions or judgements.

We hear a lot that this is 2018, and it shouldn't be anything to be anxious about, yet clearly from things I've read it is worrying, the cynicism directed at a young guy doing so.

Just because as to Cameron, because of wherever, whenever, to whoever and however he wishes to try to do so, or actually do so.

I have no axe to grind with Cameron, other than he has been very silly.

He is an avid BB fan and has got his game plan totally wrong. It may have seemed a good idea in the beginning but has bombed badly.

He should forget it now, get on with being in the house and just have a good time.

His sexuality is all his own and something I want to know nothing about, ever.

Dollface 08-10-2018 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 10273609)
Ffs, I hate that so many people are treating this story with cynicism. As a gay person myself, I relate to his story and the way he struggles to get the words out, and I find it emotional to watch.

I just can't imagine anyone would fake it, let alone be able to, and I'm saddened by the people calling him a fraud etc when he's being his authentic self

Yeah I think it's ****ty that so many people are saying it's fake etc.
As a non gay person myself, i simply can't put myself in his shoes as I have no idea what it feels like to come out, so i can't and wouldn't pretend like it must be an easy and fake-able task, y'know? The emotion in his face said it all for me, that it was genuine. No matter how much people hate Cameron (i really don't know why he's even getting so much hate tbh) they shouldn't use this as a stick to beat him with.

muchadoaboutnothing 08-10-2018 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10272772)
I just heard as i haven't watched the hl show yet that the weasel has told the whole house he's gay, he's really milking this storyline!!! :bored: :sleep: . He's used emotional blackmail and he's got everyone eating out of the palm of his hand, so clearly he's never going to be up for eviction. Even though he's still the same whiny miserable brat! .

He knows he's 100% safe ! , it's funny how he made out he's worried about his parents considering his Dad clearly stated on BOTS that the family ALREADY knew :suspect: . If anything him "coming out the closet" should backfire on him and if he's so worried about what people think then maybe he should GO HOME! .

So agree with you. didn't Cam say that he had told his Mother a few days before he went into the house. a very miserable young man trying to get attention. I find him cringy to watch.

LaLaLand 08-10-2018 10:45 PM

There's absolutely no question it's legit and good for him,

BUT

It's clearly also a huge game tactic.

rusticgal 08-10-2018 10:55 PM

Totally genuine... If it was a game plan he would have done this before nominations...or saved it until the end...or done it if he was up for eviction. He was shaking and emotional...good for him.

Vicky. 08-10-2018 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing (Post 10274925)
So agree with you. didn't Cam say that he had told his Mother a few days before he went into the house. a very miserable young man trying to get attention. I find him cringy to watch.

I must have missed that, he told his mother just a few days before going in? So he always planned coming out on the show then. Hmm.

BBDodge 08-10-2018 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10274976)
I must have missed that, he told his mother just a few days before going in? So he always planned coming out on the show then. Hmm.

Yes, he gave it away then.

Amy Jade 08-10-2018 11:50 PM

The inconsistency is so revealing to me.

• First Cameron said he never admitted his sexuality to anyone
• His dad goes on bots and says Cameron told him and his family
• Cameron says he told his mum just before entering

And obviously they could be lying but I saw a thread on twitter where a class mate of Cameron claimed he was out in high school

Liam- 09-10-2018 12:02 AM

He said from the start that some people knew, 5 iirc, cause Lewis asked him if he was scared they’d tell people, so he obviously had told certain people, but not everyone he needed to.

puzzled 09-10-2018 12:34 AM

He's 18 and I'm sure this seemed like a brilliant way to get camera time and sympathy. It actually seems to be working in the house. LOL, he messed up by not telling his Dad and Mum what he was up to, or this bright idea came to him after he entered the house. Ah, well, the GPB is on to him now. I think he's a moaner, but that's pretty age appropriate, too. I hope he'll chill and have some laughs for a change.

wendywillow 09-10-2018 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonnii (Post 10274930)
There's absolutely no question it's legit and good for him,

BUT

It's clearly also a huge game tactic.


yep, I think its brilliant, if this was bbus the house would evict him right away knowing he's now a massive favorite but with the uk voting he's untouchable. Tomasz has a fight on his hands for the crown

Jack_ 09-10-2018 12:43 AM

It was ****ing brilliant television. Raw, poignant, with some poetic storytelling from the editors. One of the best episodes of Big Brother in a while

And IF it was all an act, what a ****ing blinder he's played :cheer2:

joeysteele 09-10-2018 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing (Post 10274925)
So agree with you. didn't Cam say that he had told his Mother a few days before he went into the house. a very miserable young man trying to get attention. I find him cringy to watch.

Of course he likely told his parents, not so much his wider family though.
That makes it even more commendable as to him.
He wasn't going to let his parents learn it only if he did it on the show.

With a different set of housemates, likely more uncompromising, cynical and judgemental he may not have used his time in the house to do so.

He found a good friend in Lewis, there are 3 others out as gay/lesbian in there.
Few showing any malicious judgemental sentiments across the board.

He felt, with support, he could then get said in that supportive environment what he needed to for 'all' to hear in one go at the moment he did.

It's actually commendable, he also did it after noms were all done.
Not manipulating anything at all as has been levelled against him, totally wrong.

They are the facts and really well done to him.
I bet his parents are genuinely proud of him, as any parents ought to be for any of their sons/daughters who may find a son/daughter with the same anxiety, struggling with the need to reveal their sexuality/feelings.

Elliot 09-10-2018 08:54 AM

It was the worst episode of big brother ever and it’ll be forgotten about as soon as other housemates deliver on what the viewing public came here for, ykno natural drama and conflict not not some forced storyline that’s been done how many times on tv nevermind this show? Cameron and his housemates have been nothing but horrible and don’t deserve this moment. Bb15 letters from home teas


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