Grown adults who have faith. And yes, people feel the need to mock something they don't understand. You can believe whatever you like... I don't feel the need to mock you because that would be ignorant of me.

You make it sound like faith is some mystical unknowable thing when in reality it's anything but that. It just means accepting things without any evidence, that's it, nothing more glamorous than that, unfortunately for those who use it as a shield to avoid scrutinising their own beliefs.

People are free to believe whatever they choose, but ideas are not sacred, and especially when it comes to religion. Religion to this day has a say in the lives of the world; we only need to look at the detrimental effects catholicism has in Africa, or how Islam is a curse in the middle east and parts of Africa.

Or how religion in this very day in the US fights to take rights away from women who wish to control their own reproductive systems.

I'm sorry if that offends you, but it's nearly 2019 and we know stuff these days. In any other context, believing in the stuff that religion requires you to believe would be open to mockery. Religion was just our first attempt at understanding the world, nothing more grand than that, but I credit the ancients for their ambition.

By all means call me ignorant if you wish, but it would be misguided because I understand full well what religion is, I'm just not impressed.

There is zero evidence that he existed. Zero.

Obviously [emoji3]

is it all written by man? What about the religion of feminism, who wrote that?

He never writ it, did he?

I will comment when a thread appears around EID mocking Islam and it runs to 3 pages, or I could eat my hat if that happens, so i guess I will be eating my hat

I am not particularly religious, more of an Easter and Christmas catholic and even that is slipping a little, but some people find faith a great solace and why would I want to deny anyone that

Can you imagine if some posters in this thread got arrested for hate speech?

there are mentions of him by Jewish and Roman historians so

https://i.imgur.com/gP0tuDA.gif

what are you on about?
1/feminism is not a religion
2/this thread is not about feminism

None from the time he was alive and scholars widely believe that references to him in Josephus' writings were added later and not by the original author. I've done this in my education, so I don't need to look it up.

good gif tho ;)
Josephus might have been tampered with, but the gist of the passage is considered genuine. There's also Tacitus and apocryphal texts and circumstantial evidence
wikipedia says

i would happily mock that disgusting cult but we have no one who would disagree

Valerie Solanas. :love:

Just to provide you with more information, there is no mention of Jesus' life for 60 years, and that is Josephus. Tacitus is 20 years later still. it doesn't even reference Jesus as a historical person, and is also widely viewed by modern scholars as probably being a forgery.

You are correct about scholars mostly accepting that Jesus was a historical figure, but that's not because of any actual evidence he existed. There isn't any.

"It's 2019 and we know stuff"

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I don't even know when that is [emoji23]

Feminism is a social movement and mindset, not a religion but you already know what.

I despise religion equally but will stand up for one if I think people are hypocritical in picking and choosing which religions to hate when they've all inspired similar tragedies and crimes across the ages.

The truth is, if you wear a crucifix out in public, you are not really likely to be harassed in any way, if a muslim wears a burkha or other religious clothes then they have more of a chance of being victimised than a christian would on the grounds of their religion.

It’s a moveable celebration like Easter, depends on the movement of the sun or something..

Yeah and there's 2 Eid celebrations

tbf that hasn't started without a reason, Islam happens to be the only major religion with terrorist fundamentalists operating at the moment. However misguided, public backlash is understandable.

Good point, it was the same when the IRA were bombing the UK, the Irish catholics got it in the neck