Nothing more to say than this really. If I read a stance on trans issues on TiBB that I haven't seen before in 5 other threads I'll be utterly flabberghasted. Substitute "women's wards" in the title for "prisons", "women's shelters" or "bathrooms" and you can read everyone's response to this thread.

Mental illness ward is where they should be.

Here in Canada there are no Male and Female wards. Wards are created based on the reason you are in. If it's heart health... you will be on a ward with men and woman. I've even seen men and woman in the same room :omgno:..... Maybe you all just need to get over the false notion that trans people are just trying to pull a fast one to get into the opposite sexes change rooms and hospital wards for a cheap thrill... and realize people are just people.

there you go women of tibb, marsh TS and withano say


"put up and shut up, this conversation is over"

:umm2:


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Well thank goodness for the three of them being the real voice of reason around here. I'd have any one of them defend my rights as a woman any day

Gloria calling it straight on Loose Women

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...s-transgender/

I still don't see pre op female to male trans battering down the doors to get into male facilities so where is the equality?

I am not being petty, you keep bringing up aspects of care in hospitals as some sort of comparison, not me

My own kid is female to male trans... and we are just starting the process of undergoing those changes... and I know for a fact HE would want to start out and end up in a Male ward... (if Male wards are even necessary) because HE thinks, feels, and identifies as male. When you go into a hospital you get assigned a bed based on your recovery period... not based on your gender going in...so if location matters and he will need attention to his male physical body... then he needs to be where that can happen... not in labour, delivery, or hysterectomys.

Do you know this from personal experience or just assuming because their isn't a weekly outraged news article on the daily mail that it doesn't happen?

Regardless I'd say it's not really a fair comparison when female to male transitioning is a lot more accepted in society than male to female is. Of course more transwomen are seeking help than transmen.

The Veruca Salt generation

"Don't care how, I want it now"

"when female to male transitioning is a lot more accepted in society than male to female is. Of course more transwomen are seeking help than transmen."

do you know this from personal experience or what?

That's a funny way of saying "Stop demonising homosexuals and transsexuals as sexual deviants" but ok.

A trans woman who is admitted to hospital with a heart condition should be put on a mental illness ward?

Don't think you thought that one through did you?

A post like this makes this forum worth being
On,a real person with real experience of the subject being discussed.

They have changing rooms and modesty screens for a reason though?

I can't imagine elderly women all strip off happily in front of one another either? :laugh:

Which generation?

Probably not I suppose [emoji38]

well in Canada not the UK and not the NHS

so not really

And you aren't trans, female or affected by the topic of this debate but you started the thread.

Careful LT... letting your transphobia, homophobia and Xenophobia hang out all in one thread may leave you a little to exposed.

Hot, all that unwashed puss

And that's the end of discussion LT. You've been labelled with the phobias, so you lose.

Didn’t realise if you live in a different country it cancels out real life.

Hospital wards a bit different to prisons and hostels, how many opportunities would predatory traps have to abuse women in a hospital? Changes of clothes and intimate exams are always done behind the curtains anyway.

Of course I do!, it’s lack of care killing patients not trans patients.

I don’t think the average persons is going to be turned on by you taking a dump in a cardboard shaped hat behind the curtain let alone a trans one.