Sorry, but sticking up for Emily is not the point, the point is that an offensive word has been given prominence when it need not, because of a knee jerk reaction by Channel 4

There has been rule breaking before in the house, and they have not all ended in evictions. The only ones I can think of are Nick (BB1) and Dawn (BB7). Channel 4 has been inconsistent all along, because it suited them to do so. One has to wonder why.

dawn from bb 7 was kicked out for less. did anyone complain than.

Dawn was cheating, and come to think of it, so was Nick.

didnt shahbaz call Dawn "N###a" last year on the live stream? im sure he did.......

Maybe, but that was before OffCom stuck their oar in

Ah I see your going back to making up things again and assuming imaginery words that were not in any of my text. Since when did I say that anyone should be tortured or executed for this??? Your words not mine. You seem quite disturbed to me to be thinking of such things.

My ONLY arguement here is that people shouldnt be fussing over her being thrown out of BB - those people who are protesting against it are as bad as her. That is all i've said and I stand by it.

So, less of the "estimating" and guessing and attempting to read my mind, you are no Jedi yet!

:pat:

I'm glad people are supporting Emily, it was nothing like what jade did.

i dont see why people bother complaining.. there was a perfectly good reason why she was removed and i think it was the right desition (never liked her anyway)

Well they were not explicit, I will grant you that

I was refering to your tone, rather than your words and I got that from this


The :hello: came across as gloating over the idea that her family now consider her dead to them and not their daughter and airbrushed out of their family, wish to have nothing further to do with her ever, cutting her off without a penny etc. The Germans have a word for it, Schadenfreude

Malicious glee or gloating is what comes across as disturbing. This is not the Roman Colosseum

And my argument is that C4 mishandled the affair, because they were running scared of OfCom and made the situation worse.


Back to the numbers again, someone tried to dismiss them, and I just pointed out a ready reckoner that helps gauge opinion from what data you collect, to show that things are not always what they seem. As for reading minds, I do not have to do that, the tone of what some people write can be seen quite clearly and it is just as unpleasant.

Very well put Sticks, particularly the comparison of the Roman Coliseum, with this irrational baying for condemnation, like a hunger that needs to be satisfied. The ignorant are frighteningly desperate to brand this girl a racist, and make it stick. I wonder why.

hmm since my topic was locked...

Why are mixed-race people accepted more by blacks than whites??



When I say mixed race I am not talking about south east asian, lationo arabs etc. I am talking about the backgrounds the majority of mixed race people in the UK come from which is Black Africa/Carribean and White British background.

Charley has said she is mixed race and her mother is white and father black but she is seen as just being a black woman, some on the ds:bb forum have defended this claim because she called herself a "n****r".

I know black people try to distance themseles from mixed race people as well but when you see Charley mentioned in news she is not a mixed raced person she is always referred to as a "black housemate".

Is this to do with just the actual appearance of her skin colour (because she does have equal black/white lineage)

or

a stereotype because of the way she lives her life and how she speaks is miore common in a black woman than a white one.

I think that is a load of bull shevshould of being evicted, wheather she meant it or not she was still being racist, an that cannot be changed, they were right to kick her out, racism of any ort should not be tolerated, accidentaly or not.

So, suppose someone has never heard of the N word, they have always got on with people of different nationalities and ethnicities. They come across the N word for the first time and then ask someone what it means, in the process saying the N word

Are they suddenly a rabid racist bigot?

Of course they are and must be immediately tarred and feathered, well by this post they must be.


:cloud::rolleyes:

This was not the case with Emily, she claimed to be highly intelligent, she was not ignorant. She knew the meaning of the word. And yes, clearly she is a racist bigot. There was absolutly no need for that word to be used in that context and it just "slipped" out of her - as she admitted she and her friends call each other the word all the time (at their KKK meetings most likely!) LOL!

and sticks, stop exagerating about how we want her executed or tarred and feathered (zzz) or comparing this to a Roman Colleseum. These are all your words not mine and you claim that you sense this is what I want from the "tone" of my posts - you are wrong. I'm happy that Emily was removed (even though I wasted 2£ trying to evict her before) but I don't wish her to be mutilated, executed or thrown into the firey depths of your imaginery hell.

Again, please less guess work - you shouldnt assume things, you just make an ASS out of U and ME.

Ever heard that saying? :)

Lets face it Emily was not evicted because of the race word she was evicted for the ratings. They new a race motivated eviction would draw in the viewers.

Channel 4 could have edited it all out and privately given Emily a final warning. The public would never have known. Instead they broadcast it and used Emily and her stupidity to earn themselves higher ratings for what is thus far a rather poor series of BB

As I explained to sticks earlier, this theory is all very nice on the surface but when you think harder - I really dont think BB could have kept this covered up and the reason is CHARLEY - she wouldnt let it drop, and the house has been in turmoil for at least a day because of it. What would BB have shown in highlites if they had covered it all up? The garden wall? Everyone was discussing it most of the day.

True Charley may have persisted with it as she talks twenty to the dozen. Never the less CH4 have the editing power to edit out Charly comments. They could of course have consulted Charley to find out what she wanted to happen and then go with her wishes. they did not therfore the main motivation to have a race based eviction was simply for ratings

And then what would have happened to Big Brother when Charley came out and started shouting her mouth off about being racially abused in the BB house?

You are so right, no-one had ever seen it but yet like you say they chose to show it and exploit her to increase ratings. I am not excusing her behaviour but did she really need to be made into a public figure of hatred?

If you were listening, she said that it was her friends, who were black who threw it around, and this is plausible because there are some who feel they are reclaiming the N word.

Where are you getting that she is a racist bigot? Unattributed sources from the gutter tabloids, hardly a credible source.

For your information, The KKK was a movement in the southern United States and never made it across the Atlantic because it's origins were from the aftermath from American Civil war (See here)


I am using something called Satire which sometimes is the only way to get a point across and make people realise the logical conclusion of what they are saying. It is a standard debating tactic.

As for the Roman Colosseum, if you do a search on TIBB you will find I have used this comparison before, because people here go overboard and take to being personal about HM's and wishing them actual harm which is in breach of forum regulations. I have seen so much bile over the years of Big Brother that I find it easy to spot, and it is not very edifying or pleasant. They end up baying for blood, as if they were in the Roman Colesseum, so I think the comparison is quite valid.


Yes I have

And for the record I was totally neutral on the pair who were up. I did not support any of them, my annoyance is that Channel 4 chose to put this word into the public domain. It was obvious it was not a repeat of CBB, the people affected were handling it and bringing the perpetrator into line and nobody on the outside had seen it as it was not on the live feed. There was no need to do this, and we would not be dancing around a racially offensive word, seeing it in acres of newsprint.

This was heavy handed and a knee jerk reaction just so C4 can gain a few brownie points

922 people rang and complained to point this out, that is 922 real data points, not anonymous and unreliable on-line opinion polls. So what do we hear, that they must be members of the BNP. Who is doing the assuming there?

As i said they should have consulted Charley and gone with her wishes. Had she blabbed afterwards then CH4 would be in the clear as Charley would have broken the agreement and CH4 would have been not guilty of broadcasting racist material.

It is not channel 4's duty to expose racism on BB it is CH4 's duty not to offend the public......Editing would have ensured that....

Okay but I still feel that it was a no-win situation for them, if Charley had come out and gone to the press with it, I'm almost certain that BB would have received just as many complaints for keeping the viewing public 'in the dark' or something along those lines...

True it was a difficult situation for them because of the Ofcom ruling. However as usual they selected the easy option not the sensible option.

They allowed the celebrities in CBB to hang themselves. They could have stopped some of it. they did not because it is all about ratings and keeping the advertisers happy.....

Even if it means a housemate might be motivated into thinking about suicide....Racism may be bad but it does not warrant a death sentence or an unlimited sentence of public hatred. Even double murderers don't get that sort of brutality issued on them....

Except the advertisers ran for the hills on that occasion :wink:

Don't patronise me. If you had been more observant you would have noticed I put a "LOL!" after my KKK comment, meaning I was JOKING. I know my history, do you honestly think I was SERIOUS about Emily belonging to the KKK club?
Don't take everything so literally and stop analysing everything I say - I actually purposely mentioned this to see what kind of analyitical nonsense you would come out with LOL. Fun.

"Where are you getting that she is a racist bigot?"

The fact that many people have testified against her and given their full name and details of racial abuse from Emily in the past - some of which in front of lots of witnesses at her college. Who are YOU to say they are lying?

Also the fact that she called a black girl a NI**ER to her face is proof enough for me and the rest of the country, hence the reason she was booted out of BB, hence the reason her family are disowning her over it and hence the reason she was grovelling and crying on BBLB last night, saying sorry over and over again.

922 people complained that Emily was kicked out for racism. 46,000+ people complained that Shilpa was racially abused in CBB. I think the war against racism is winning - and I know which side I am on. Do you?

It's time to stamp out racism and I stand strong against it.