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Twosugars 18-06-2019 04:47 PM

We have two genders, the default position should be both are represented, simple as.

Men got used to being the privileged gender and some hate making room for women. Sad.
The equality is inevitable and dinosaurs will die out or evolve

Twosugars 18-06-2019 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10597179)
Thats True.

You're confusing female underrepresentation for objective truth

Oliver_W 18-06-2019 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10597183)
We have two genders, the default position should be both are represented, simple as.

Men got used to being the privileged gender and some hate making room for women. Sad.
The equality is inevitable and dinosaurs will die out or evolve

Would you put the "need" for representation above the need for a good product?

imo if the best team only has one gender, it should be chosen. If the best team has both genders, that should be chosen. But the gender balance shouldn't be a deciding factor, and I'm yet to hear a reason it should be.

hijaxers 18-06-2019 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10597032)
If you can't win fairly, then you may as well cheat.

Some of the best new comedy is being written by women .

hijaxers 18-06-2019 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10597115)
Smack the Pony

Fleabag !

Oliver_W 18-06-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10597190)
Some of the best new comedy is being written by women .

Then I guess we should keep it as a meritocracy and leave it at that.

Alf 18-06-2019 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10597190)
Some of the best new comedy is being written by women .

That might be true, but most of the best new comedy is written by men.

hijaxers 18-06-2019 05:34 PM

I used to love 3 non blondes and Titty Bang Bang ( 2nd series was a lot better than 1st)

Elliot 18-06-2019 05:48 PM

People want so desperately for straight white rich men to stay in power

Alf 18-06-2019 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10597259)
People want so desperately for straight white rich men to stay in power

Finally, the race baiter brigade arrive in this debate. What took you so long?

Twosugars 18-06-2019 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10597259)
People want so desperately for straight white rich men to stay in power

True. The current far right surge is all about that really

Alf 18-06-2019 06:23 PM

True

Because, reasons

Alf 18-06-2019 06:27 PM

I'm so sorry for being born a straight, White man.

Can you ever forgive me for this?

Twosugars 18-06-2019 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10597294)
I'm so sorry for being born a straight, White man.

Can you ever forgive me for this?

Why do you see equality as an existential threat?
It's not about persecution of straight white males but about giving everybody equal rights :shrug:

Alf 18-06-2019 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10597336)
Why do you see equality as an existential threat?
It's not about persecution of straight white males but about giving everybody equal rights :shrug:

Everybody has equal rights, the law of the land says so.

What are you actually fighting for?

Think about that one, I'm off to watch a film, be back in 2-3 hours.

Marsh. 18-06-2019 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10597011)
Trouble maker
there will be some Male Writer teams that do not want
a female on the table.



Sign Of The Times.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...share_btn_link

So some men don't want to work with women and the head of itv is the trouble maker?

Marsh. 18-06-2019 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10597020)
Yawn. For all she knows she could be excluding the next Monty Python, all to signal about how 'inclusive' they're being.

The only question that should be asked is 'how much money will they make us?' Discriminating based on gender is just wrong.

Because Monty Python only worked because they were all men?

Marsh. 18-06-2019 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10597036)
However, this CEO is saying that she'll stop men.

No, she is not. She's creating opportunities for female writers.

Marsh. 18-06-2019 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10597104)
History clearly tells us that men are just funnier than women.

Facts don't care about your feelings

I find funny things funny, my sense of humour doesn't evaluate the gender of the person writing/performing the comedy before finding it funny.

All history tells us is men were the ones in all of the privileged positions being allowed to play their material to the masses.

Marsh. 18-06-2019 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10597342)
Everybody has equal rights

:joker: Prove it.

Oliver_W 18-06-2019 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10597355)
Because Monty Python only worked because they were all men?

No, and that's obviously not what I meant.

There could be an amazing comedy writing team, poised to make their pitch for ITV ... but they wouldn't even be considered, due to their gender.

Discrimination.

Ammi 18-06-2019 07:31 PM

...she wants comedy collaborations with males and females so that the humour will attract different audiences...to make it more inclusive and more diverse....and not to exclude or have it pigeon holed into a type of humour that she feels would be mainly male oriented....and would possibly restrict the audience...it seems a reasonable mindset tbh and will hopefully produce some good and diverse comedy...as oppose to the ‘one kind of joke’ stuff she feels is being produced atm by all Male comedy teams...


Writer Brona C Titley, who works on Celebability, told the festival: “If you have the same type of writers in terms of race or sexual orientation or gender, then you’re only getting one kind of joke.”

Marsh. 18-06-2019 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10597373)
No, and that's obviously not what I meant.

There could be an amazing comedy writing team, poised to make their pitch for ITV ... but they wouldn't even be considered, due to their gender.

Discrimination.

It's not discrimination at all.

She's had a very male centric slate of commissions, so now wants to broaden the range of content so is requesting a more gender balanced input. It's the entire opposite of discrimination. She hasn't put a big sign up saying "No Men!!"

More TV execs need to take a long hard look at their entire output and see what is repetitive and very samey and work towards broadening the range of voices being given the opportunity to add their voices to the choir.

More diversity is only a good thing, not just for opening up opportunities for more talent behind the scenes, but also giving the viewer a wider range of products to enjoy.

If everyone writing for TV comes from the same backgrounds/experiences, you're going to get an extremely vanilla output.

Alf 18-06-2019 10:05 PM

In 1975 John Cleese and Connie Booth wrote Fawlty Towers together. Nobody complained.

In 1997 Craig Cash and Caroline Aherne wrote The Royle Family together. Nobody complained.

In 2007 James Corden and Ruth Jones wrote Gavin and Stacey together. Nobody complained.

These all happened naturally, and comedy, written and performed by men and women has been happening for almost the entirety of television. nobody was forced into it.

This is just 4th wave feminism in action and nothing else.

Twosugars 18-06-2019 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10597714)
In 1975 John Cleese and Connie Booth wrote Fawlty Towers together. Nobody complained.

In 1997 Craig Cash and Caroline Aherne wrote The Royle Family together. Nobody complained.

In 2007 James Corden and Ruth Jones wrote Gavin and Stacey together. Nobody complained.

These all happened naturally, and comedy, written and performed by men and women has been happening for almost the entirety of television. nobody was forced into it.

This is just 4th wave feminism in action and nothing else.

You're confusing partnerships with teams. Teams are almost never chosen as a bunch of mates. Never watched the Larry Sanders Show?


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