Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10726809)

absolutely but our own Christian superstition is reformed and we dont kill things thinking that it will please a "God"

Unlike say the London bridge murderer who did that exact thing

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10726813)

It's not "my" anything but you're saying all religious people are uneducated, yes?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10726816)

no, but they are (if they actually do) believing in something with no evidence and based on a common middle eastern myth from 2000 years ago. WHich is not great and most likely was illogically passed down to them by their parents.

Its a dying thing in the UK as it becomes harder to believe such things as technology progresses beyond what one reads in a poorly set out old book.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10726816)

no, but they are (if they actually do) believing in something with no evidence and based on a common middle eastern myth from 2000 years ago. WHich is not great and most likely was illogically passed down to them by their parents.

Its a dying thing in the UK as it becomes harder to believe such things as technology progresses beyond what one reads in a poorly set out old book.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10726819)

So when everyone is more evolved all religion will die out?

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10726819)

So when everyone is more evolved all religion will die out?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10726824)

Well as societies become more equal and educated religion has been seen to die out but there 260 million children in the world who currently dont go to school

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10726800)

can you explain using the best scientific knowledge that man has gleaned over the last 500 years why they kill the animals?

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10726830)

Why do religious people cut skin off babies?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10726832)

I think as i recall it was initially to guard against welcoming into a tribe a stranger who could be dangerous, if they were circumcised they were part of them and so could be trusted. ie a sure fire way of making sure a person was who they said they were

back in early civilisation and through human evolution religion was discovered to be a way to make large numbers of people do things together and behave in large groups. One man could not make more than say 100 people do things, one god could make 5000

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10726833)

Ah... circumcision. That took a little longer than I imagined.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10726837)

The origins of it are not really known with any certainty. Pretty sure that skin art has been around equally as long though, so there would be other ways to identify yourself to a certain group. Is it a good or healthy thing to do in your opinion?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10726841)

its disgustng and most americans (80%) do it based on BS like "its healthier" or "cleaner"

:umm2:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10726844)

It's relevant to the discussion, some practices are seen as essential in the modern world and some not. I'd like to know too where to draw the line on ancient ritual and their relevance today.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10726840)

Lt got them on the run.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10726847)

how do you mean?

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10726853)

I mean why are some rituals acceptable in our modern educated world and yet we frown on other so called less 'advanced' peoples for their rites?
Hypocrisy or ignorance?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10726858)

I dont think we do as long as no one is getting killed

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10726872)

Right so mutilation is ok because they don't die?

And the killing of animals in sport what was your view on this again? ...

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10726832)

I think as i recall it was initially to guard against welcoming into a tribe a stranger who could be dangerous, if they were circumcised they were part of them and so could be trusted. ie a sure fire way of making sure a person was who they said they were



back in early civilisation and through human evolution religion was discovered to be a way to make large numbers of people do things together and behave in large groups. One man could not make more than say 100 people do things, one god could make 5000

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10726957)

Jesus .. there must be a less painless way of identifying people :)

A tattoo or a branding ??

Also why are these travelling strangers walking around with the knobbs on show :)



In the other side ... circumcised willies are a cleaner option and the guys can “go for’ longer as the heads aren’t as sensitive ..

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