I'm thinking more of facism in general rather than specifically nazism; it contains extreme elements of both nationalism and Marxism, to the point where you can't truly call it left or right wing.

What elements of Marxism? Marxism specifically talks about the negative effect of workers being powerless when up against business owners, and how capitalism will eventually end up where we are today (record company profits versus it's workers needing government assistance to survive because wages aren't liveable), whereas nazism specifically wants companies controlled by the state and it's benefactors. It's the opposite of Marxism or Marxist theory.

All far left stuff blends in a bit, maybe i didn't mean marxism :joker:

But again, facism opposes both capitalism and socialism, making it hard to place clearly in the left-right scale. Extreme state ownership is "extreme left" while the nationalistic aspects are "extreme right"

What a snide member insult. Wow

All political scientists place it firmly on the far right end of the political spectrum.
Let's not reinvent the wheel shall we

Excuse me ...which member are you accusing me of insulting? :/

Labour had at least one as well:

Right so all parties had resignations or members not permitted to stand... remind me why the issue is solely a labour problem again?

Because there are far too many cases of anti - semitism in the Labour party.

Remind me why they are being investigated by the EHRC, only a second investigation of its kind?

There were cases identified in the labour membership. They are open to scrutiny and will comply and be as transparent as possible.
As they should be. Why have other parties avoided similar investigation and clarity?.. hmm?

Have similar complaints been raised against other parties?

Yep.

Oh right, when and who?

Because it isn't a major problem? Because, maybe unlike Labour, they are dealing with issues instead of ignoring them?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e...hame-mwhhfkknv
John McDonnell apologises for Labour anti-semitism
Leaked internal documents reveal shocking record in tackling new anti-semitism cases


I read widely and have come across dozens upon dozens of cases of anti - semitism in Labour, not much at all in other parties.
Do you really believe that all those who say they were targeted for being Jewish are liars?

Do you think the EHRC are investigating to pass their time? If there are similar serious problems in other parties why aren't they being investigated too? Or do you think they are league with the other parties to discredit Labour? :inamood:
Please try and answer without the usual diverting tactics...:hee:

...this is awful ...and very concerning As well, with the recent New York stabbings...apparently the man who carried out the stabbings had been searching...’why Hitler hated the Jews..’...very, very disturbing, the extent of hate that appears to be growing in some society’s atm..a society that is more and more, building on negativity...I hadn’t known about the 911 theory, until I googled it, when I read the article...

responded appropriately, I am aware of the accusations agaist labour and agree with the action, I made that crystal clear, that was not the crux of my post. I was referring to the way the conservatives agreed to investigations into accusations within their ranks and then rowed back on those promises. That is not dealing with the issue, it is ignoring it.

I have NOT suggested anyone is a liar not sure how you have twisted what I said to infer that.
Of course anyone with extremist views has no place in the membership of our political parties.

What are your thoughts on the spokesperson for Britain first requesting up to 5000 members join the conservatives? Why would an alt right party feel so at home there? Surely if the home of extremist views is the labour party they would be signing up there.

Have there been accusations from within the Tories to match those of Labour?

They're obviously mistaken, nothing about the Tories or Johnson suggests their views are compatible, and the party has said the memberships will be revoked following the automatic confirmation emails.

Yes there have Savid Javid promised a full inquiry into accusations of Islamophobia and that was subsequently shelved, how is that being accountable?

It was reported that the leader of Britain first would have his membership revoked as they know who he is, that did not extend to the 5000 extreme right wing members.

where are you getting 5000?

oh wait i know, you are directly quoting from the Britain First PR machine


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How many accusations of Islamophobia have there been? Maybe it was a small enough number to be chalked down to a couple of bigots and a full enquiry not being necessary :shrug:

Well they're not psychic are they :joker: hopefully the other BF members will realise their views don't align after all and withdraw.

Well yes, the spokesperson for Britain first asked their ranks to join the conservatives, why?

There were enough for Savid Javid to promise full scrutiny during the televised debates.

If the leader and the spokesperson thinks they align why would the membership feel different?
No they are not psychic which is why on receiving a request from 'John Smith'or 'Mick Brown' they won't be thinking ...hang on, is this the John Smith that was a member of BF?

According to HopeNotHate, BF has approx 1000 members.
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/resea...britain-first/

Who do you think is more reliable - a spokesman from a racist "party" which was de-registered from electability, or an anti-racist movement?

I agree with the other posters who have replied to you, so no need to say it all again....

Whether it's 5000, 1000 or 50 it's too many...and it doesnt explain why they think they are matched ideologically, that's the point :/