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Livia 29-01-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10765738)
No, I hadn't made any claim at all. I'd said "Are you surprised"

Yes, I think a lot of people would be surprised that a people on here are openly calling Prince Andrew a paedo when he hasn't even been arrested let alone charged, and a moderator is agreeing. But oops... that sounded a bit legal. Let's not go there.

Jake. 29-01-2020 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10765742)
Andrew like many of the other royals has been an unpleasant arsehole for decades. People don't like him, they aren't interested in him. People did like Meghan until she started behaving like a spoilt brat, so they feel more disappointed in her.

Many didn’t like Meghan from the second she got here. You’ve only got to look at the vitriol on sites like The Mail and The Sun to see many had an issue with her from the off.

Livia 29-01-2020 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 10765737)
Where did I say that the UK is racist? Not every person in the UK dislikes Meghan.

So what did you mean then, when you suggested Andrew is being let off in some way because Meghan is a mixed race female? You suggest that all the problems with Meghan are only perceived and only because she's mixed race. Huge simplification.

Kizzy 29-01-2020 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10765712)
I don't know why you're making a joke here. I'm telling you there is no evidence. Do you think there is some? Forget the interview.... Evidence.

There are statements from victims and links to a known paedophile, in fairness there is more evidence for than against.

At least more evidence than tibb usually requires to be judge, juror and executioner tbh.

Marsh. 29-01-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10765739)
He's a Duke. And Marshy, if you want to dress top to toe in Sussex Royal branded stuff, I think you'd look amazing. Me, I won't be buying it.

Who's talking about buying it? :suspect: There's no need to be so defensive. :eyes:

I'm simply talking about the fact they are Royals.... so have a Royal brand, which they're entitled to do. Par for the course.

Quitting their jobs doesn't magically erase who they are. Their brands/titles and whatever they do with it is at the discretion of the family themselves. It's nothing but pageantry and tradition at this point anyway. If they were still our ruling monarchy it might be different, but as an institution they're just a tourist attraction at this point.

Jake. 29-01-2020 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10765745)
So what did you mean then, when you suggested Andrew is being let off in some way because Meghan is a mixed race female? You suggest that all the problems with Meghan are only perceived and only because she's mixed race. Huge simplification.

The question was “why is there more outrage at Meghan than Andrew”, and I believe what I said to be the case. Certain people haven’t liked Meghan from the moment she touched down and I feel the “outrage” directed at Harry and Meghan is moreso directed at her and I feel her background has played a huge part in that. Andrew is being let off far more than he should be because the right-wing papers and such are still focused on that “bitch” Meghan because they know it’s what riles their readers up.

Niamh. 29-01-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10765743)
Yes, I think a lot of people would be surprised that a people on here are openly calling Prince Andrew a paedo when he hasn't even been arrested let alone charged, and a moderator is agreeing. But oops... that sounded a bit legal. Let's not go there.

Go there all you want Livia, but this isn't a court, it's a forum, people are allowed to discuss things like interviews and allegations without your blessing..........

Kizzy 29-01-2020 11:42 AM

Isn't that all any royal is, tourist attractions... what do these 'duties' involve anyway? Waving, eating food sometimes.

Marsh. 29-01-2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10765751)
Isn't that all any royal is, tourist attractions... what do these 'duties' involve anyway? Waving, eating food sometimes.

Of course. They don't rule the country anymore than you or I.

It's literally just being the "face" of the UK I would imagine. Representing us. Keeping relations going. But even that is ever dwindling.

user104658 29-01-2020 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10765666)
I would say I was baffled by it but I'm not at all, I can think of at least 3 reasons why

1) Female
2) Not White-British
3) Not Royal blood

?

Niamh. 29-01-2020 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10765767)
1) Female
2) Not White-British
3) Not Royal blood

?

I had No2 as 2 & 3 but yeah :laugh:

Marsh. 29-01-2020 12:12 PM

That's not fair, you posted that after she posted the answers.

Worst pub quiz ever!!

Twosugars 29-01-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10765767)
1) Female
2) Not White-British
3) Not Royal blood

?

Disagree with number 3.
1) Female
2) Non white
3) Foreign

Kizzy 29-01-2020 12:18 PM

Being woke... you forgot the wokeness.

Woke is the new black.

Twosugars 29-01-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10765782)
Being woke... you forgot the wokeness.

Woke is the new black.

Good point so 4) independent and woke

Josy 29-01-2020 12:21 PM

Meghan is female, Andrew isnt, that's about the jist of it.

Sad but true.

Twosugars 29-01-2020 12:24 PM

So we have a female, poc and foreign who knows her mind.

A perfect target for ALL kinds of bigotry. It'd be difficult to imagine a better target actually

Cherie 29-01-2020 12:32 PM

Lets face it most of the people who have joined in the Meghan debate have no interest in the Royal Family, because she is mixed race, its a great opportunity to come out of the woodwork to shout 'racist', or you hate her because she is black, because some people just love to hurl abuse on social media

This is the thread I posted about his interview.

19 replies as opposed to pages upon pages upon pages of people saying the same thing on the Meghan and Harry Thread

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...+prince+andrew

Cherie 29-01-2020 12:35 PM

and here we have the Harry to Marry thread, where a lot of the people who were really happy for them both are now being told they HATE HER :fan:

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...ht=harry+marry

Beso 29-01-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10765789)
So we have a female, poc and foreign who knows her mind.

A perfect target for ALL kinds of bigotry. It'd be difficult to imagine a better target actually

Well piers morgan is a middle aged white man who knows his mind and he gets all sorts of abuse directed at him..a lot more than she does. ..so using your logic, what does that say?

Kizzy 29-01-2020 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10765798)
Lets face it most of the people who have joined in the Meghan debate have no interest in the Royal Family, because she is mixed race, its a great opportunity to come out of the woodwork to shout 'racist', or you hate her because she is black, because some people just love to hurl abuse on social media

This is the thread I posted about his interview.

19 replies as opposed to pages upon pages upon pages of people saying the same thing on the Meghan and Harry Thread

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...+prince+andrew

some people love to hurl racist abuse on social media too... or like Phil have you never seen an example of that so it doesn't exist?

Jigs 29-01-2020 12:40 PM

They are different types of ridicule/slander IMO. Andrew is basically a pariah of our society now and will stay that way until he dies (...or found innocent? :skull: ), whereas Meghan is just embroiled in controversy that is both temporary and far less damning.

Meghan is the hot commodity of the moment. Despite being slandered by UK media outlets she remains very much liked and appreciated by world audiences. On the other hand, Andrew isn't fresh/hot/exciting and above all his actions are vile and criminal. His life/career/reputation is over and there's no way he's coming back from this. As for Meghan? Give it 6 months and she'll be dominating.

Cherie 29-01-2020 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10765804)
some people love to hurl racist abuse on social media too... or like Phil have you never seen an example of that so it doesn't exist?

Where did I say it doesn't exist?

you've changed you called her 'a parasite' on the Harry to Marry thread :fan:

Cherie 29-01-2020 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10765799)
and here we have the Harry to Marry thread, where a lot of the people who were really happy for them both are now being told they HATE HER :fan:

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...ht=harry+marry

btw this thread only ran to 6 pages :fan:

Kizzy 29-01-2020 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10765808)
Where did I say it doesn't exist?

you've changed you called her 'a parasite' on the Harry to Marry thread :fan:

Quote me please.. I dont recall making any reference to parasites.

And I didn't say you had said it didn't exist....
People hurl all kinds of abuse on social media, is it a reach then to suggest there has been racist comments made about her, and many are justified in 'coming out of the woodwork' to call that out?


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