Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10820970)

That's selfish though isnt it? Just because you can survive it doesnt mean millions of others can

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10820966)

Yes You Are Right

more Cancer people were all waiting to be saved

then Covid 19 changed their future.



They can not "balance it out"

I like your vision- but it is not our sad future

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10820933)

I've been trying to tell arista that these numbers don't mean that much unless you scale by population size since February. He's not listening, Livia :fist:.

Even comparing Spain to Italy for example, Spain was hit harder than it looks at first glance, as they have a population of 40m compared to Italy's 60m.

The US should be "expected" to be 5x Italy/UK because they have 5x the population (not 10x Smithy :nono:) but in part its like comparing apples to oranges... Some of the big, open states will be able to handle it much better because of "natural" social distancing (small population per square mile) whereas if you just take New York City as an example separate to the whole US, the figures are especially harsh. Nearly 6000 deaths in a population of 8 million. Although its a similar situation in London.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10820973)

No I am stating I am

ready for much Worse.



Its important to get the Truth.

not some dream.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10820939)

So you want more Deaths?

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10820981)

So Covid deaths are all that matter, and other deaths aren't in the equation? :think: that's some strange logic arista. Thankfully the people making the decisions are likely to understand the real risks, and not take this "it doesn't matter how many die so long as fewer die of Covid" approach.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10820985)

On the contrary arista... I believe it might be that you, personally, are more worried about getting Covid than you are about these other considerations and so it's you who is engaging in some "wishful thinking" that we'll all just stay locked away for a year.

Originally Posted by James (Post 10820992)

Here's an article about what the options are about ending or reducing the lockdown - 'Coronavirus lockdown: How can we lift restrictions?'

Click the link - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52183295

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10821004)

Yes but it's not about suddenly lifting all restrictions. Social distancing will continue for a long time, large gatherings will be banned for a long time, supermarket restrictions (queueing, one way systems) will continue for a long time... Etc.

However some of the other big things - like non-emergency medical functions - will have to be recommenced long before a year. I'd also be very surprised if they keep schools completely closed for a year. Though they might do something like 3-day weeks, staggered classes for reduced class size, etc.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10821009)

Until a Safe Vaccine
appears - nothing can change
hence one year Lockdown.

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10821009)

Until a Safe Vaccine
appears - nothing can change
hence one year Lockdown.

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan (Post 10821011)

It can change, there is a possibility of tracking healthy people and making those infecting stay in

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10821035)

At first I thought this was an amusing article..
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...hs-nightingale

Then I thought, hang on where did the BBC get a working ventilator from and who sold it?

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10821040)

Kizzy BBC bought it years ago
well before a shortage

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10821045)

When exactly?