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michael21 11-05-2020 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10839624)
2 under 14s have died in eng Wales from a pop of 14 million


There is zero risk to children

It's not the kids it there family the older members that are at risk

Zizu 12-05-2020 08:23 AM

Seems a very odd decision to be basically experimenting with our youngest kids and all the staff involved ...


Speaking at the Downing Street press conference on Monday (April 27), Prof Whitty said if you have schools open, it does contribute to the infection rate.

“If you close schools, the R goes down, it was part of the collection of things that were done in March to try and pull the R from where it was, near three, to where it is now, below one"


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Zizu 12-05-2020 08:24 AM

Looks like complete chaos ...


What other countries are doing
https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/51204456


Pupils have started returning to school in some countries too, such as France - where secondary school pupils have to wear masks in school. In Denmark, children are being kept further apart than usual and, where possible, lessons are being held outside; classes in Norway have been reduced to a maximum of 15 students to allow for social distancing. Some school playgrounds are divided, and there is a lot of focus on hygiene - particularly hand washing; Switzerland is allowing children under 10 to have "brief" meetings, and even hugs with their grandparents.


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Zizu 12-05-2020 09:20 AM

As every one associated with schools knows, schools are hubs of infection anyway - and children certainly are super spreaders.

I fail to see how the government can claim you can't catch it from kids, when you can from hard surfaces?..


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Zizu 12-05-2020 09:40 AM

Just seen this rather interesting comment from a deputy head on another forum thread frequented by predominantly teachers / heads / SLTs etc




“Following an email to parents my childrens school have reported 70% of parents have said they will not return to school on June 1st.


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Zizu 12-05-2020 10:36 AM

Joint General Secretary, National Education Union . Kevin Courtney just said it's very unlikely primary schools will be going back in June


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Kazanne 12-05-2020 10:39 AM

Regarding schools,I work in a school and believe it or not a school will be one of the safest places for your kids,we have had a detailed email of what is in place,the virus will not be going away anytime soon,so we have to gradually get them back into education.IF you feel scared about it just keep them at home.

Kazanne 12-05-2020 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10840157)
As every one associated with schools knows, schools are hubs of infection anyway - and children certainly are super spreaders.

I fail to see how the government can claim you can't catch it from kids, when you can from hard surfaces?..


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The virus was around Zizu long before we even knew of it's impact.

Zizu 12-05-2020 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10840197)
The virus was around Zizu long before we even knew of it's impact.



That’s irrelevant.. we’re still seeing thousands of new infections daily and hundreds of deaths .

So as I said ..

As every one associated with schools knows, schools are hubs of infection anyway - and children certainly are super spreaders.

I fail to see how the government can claim you can't catch it from kids and their grubby hands when you can from hard surfaces and clothes ?..






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Zizu 12-05-2020 11:28 AM

The petition has hit over 400,000 now !




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Cherie 12-05-2020 11:46 AM

When do you think it will be safe for schools to go back Zizu?

Kazanne 12-05-2020 11:57 AM

schools have been open all the way through this and some children have been going,there has been no news as I have seen that those kids have spread it .

Niamh. 12-05-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10840230)
schools have been open all the way through this and some children have been going,there has been no news as I have seen that those kids have spread it .

Well, I'm glad they weren't tbh, when it comes to my kids I would rather err on the side of caution anyway :shrug:

Zizu 12-05-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10840224)
When do you think it will be safe for schools to go back Zizu?



I’ve always felt that Sept should be the focal point for schools to return ( if all safety concerns are settled ) and maybe a week or two in July just for the year 6 pupils to catch up with friends and teachers and have a couple of transition mornings at their new secondary school


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Kazanne 12-05-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10840232)
Well, I'm glad they weren't tbh, when it comes to my kids I would rather err on the side of caution anyway :shrug:

Well I think most mothers would think like that and its great if you can do that,but some have to work, the schools have had emails to guide us what to do ,you don't have to send your kids and if it makes you feel happier keeping them away,you can,plus some kids are safer at school.

Cherie 12-05-2020 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10840252)
I’ve always felt that Sept should be the focal point for schools to return ( if all safety concerns are settled ) and maybe a week or two in July just for the year 6 pupils to catch up with friends and teachers and have a couple of transition mornings at their new secondary school


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I do agree with this, I wonder if that it the compromise that will be reached with regard to Year 6s, such a shame if they cant sign off on their primary school years

Zizu 12-05-2020 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10840230)
schools have been open all the way through this and some children have been going,there has been no news as I have seen that those kids have spread it .



Our school has been seeing between 10 and 17 pupils per day instead of 1,400 - quite a different situation.

Also that small number were in 2 or 3 separate classrooms of no more than 6 - with two staff in attendance each room .

These are teenagers and even they couldn’t be kept apart in class - let alone at break and dinnertime where they were seen hugging and swapping phones .


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Kazanne 12-05-2020 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by michael21 (Post 10840055)
It's not the kids it there family the older members that are at risk

If they live with their families the risk is low as they have been living with them anyway.Ive taken mine a couple of times.

Zizu 12-05-2020 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10840256)
I do agree with this, I wonder if that it the compromise that will be reached with regard to Year 6s, such a shame if they cant sign off on their primary school years



I think it’s madness to introduce four additional age groups into the current ongoing system .


In regards to social distancing, no sharing of equipment , one way systems , staggered breaks and dinnertimes - its quite a leap for some primary schools who may be going from ten or so pupils to an maybe an extra 120 each day ( 4 x30)


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Zizu 12-05-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10840261)
If they live with their families the risk is low as they have been living with them anyway.Ive taken mine a couple of times.



How can a child going back into school ( 1st June) with four other year groups -all unable to follow social distancing guidelines and then going back home to their families NOT be a risk ??


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Zizu 12-05-2020 02:05 PM

So apparently Matt Hancock this morning said there's a higher risk of catching the virus indoors ... thank the lawd we teach all our lessons outside ...


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Zizu 12-05-2020 02:06 PM

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This is a copy / paste post lifted from another forum ..

Rather intriguing though ...

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“My husband is the chair of governors at a primary school and he's been liaising with the schools headmistress re going back. Between them they've decided it isnt feasible to do what the government is thinking about doing.

They have a duty of care. If their school cannot meet the requirements set by the govt they are duty bound not to re-open.

So they are opening the school so the little ones can meet their new teachers one by one. But the school wont open until September now”



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Kazanne 12-05-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10840271)
How can a child going back into school ( 1st June) with four other year groups -all unable to follow social distancing guidelines and then going back home to their families NOT be a risk ??


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They are supervised Zizu and some children are still in school and have all been fine.

Zizu 12-05-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10840344)
They are supervised Zizu and some children are still in school and have all been fine.



They’ve been ‘fine’ because the on call staff have been outnumbering the actual number of pupils in school more often than not .

There’s a hell of a difference between keeping 10 to 15 children at a safe distance apart to keep around 130 at a safe distance ..


The schools simply don’t have the space to cope with the social distancing guidelines.

Have you not seen any of the news clips showing various primary schools ?

Most of the corridors shown were less than two metres wide .


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Zizu 12-05-2020 07:03 PM

Sooo a peak into the future ??

Schools in Wuhan now have a very thorough procedure in place before the pupil even walks in through the school building.

The pupil goes to the school gates there is someone waiting who sprays the pupils clothes front and back below the neck and then the pupil takes off their mask they've worn to walk to school, and puts in bin, and then the pupil uses hand sanitiser from a dispenser that's laid out on a table in front of the school , and then the pupil lifts both their feet up and someone sprays the bottom of their shoes - and then they are allowed to go in to the school building - each pupil is also given a 'temperature check' before being allowed to enter the school building.



Same applies to all staff Teachers wear masks and have to do a temperature check of each pupil twice a day.



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