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Liam- 24-06-2020 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10869194)
I can only comment on Leigh from Little Mix and wasn’t that more about social media bullying. Why would you be scared to report blatent racism...or was she more scared of jeopardising her career :shrug:...

She was scared she’d be seen as a ‘troublemaker’ if she spoke out about it, which is what happens when black people speak out

Beso 24-06-2020 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10869196)
She was scared she’d be seen as a ‘troublemaker’ if she spoke out about it, which is what happens when black people speak out

And Shaun Ryder.

Crimson Dynamo 24-06-2020 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 10869188)
"It's not racism, all black females have to change themselves for whites to like them"

I'm sure it would be the same if the numbers were reversed, if the population was 90% black. Money talks at the end of the day

GoldHeart 24-06-2020 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10869194)
I can only comment on Leigh from Little Mix and wasn’t that more about social media bullying. Why would you be scared to report blatent racism...or was she more scared of jeopardising her career :shrug:...

:facepalm: She couldn't win either way, even when she was on strictly she knew if she was happy they'd say she doesn't care about her mother's death , if she showed emotions then they say she's looking for sympathy.

I don't think anyone will understand the immense pressure of being in these situations.

rusticgal 24-06-2020 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10869196)
She was scared she’d be seen as a ‘troublemaker’ if she spoke out about it, which is what happens when black people speak out

Personally I would rather be seen as a troublemaker and stand up for what is right and what I believe in....but we are all different.

Cherie 24-06-2020 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10869152)
It’s a shame she didn’t expose this back at the time. It would have had more of an impact.

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GoldHeart 24-06-2020 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10869219)
Personally I would rather be seen as a troublemaker and stand up for what is right and what I believe in....but we are all different.

Oh really ?? Well what about abuse victims that only spoke out when the #metoo movement came about.

Unless you've been in Alexandra's shoes then you can't really judge .

Ammi 24-06-2020 07:10 PM

...her voice breaks with a lot of emotion when she says that she’s so annoyed with herself for allowing some of the things to be said...but she was only 19yrs old when she was rejected because she was black...it’s heartbreaking because a victim so often a sense of blame for something that she is entirely not at Any fault ...

Marsh. 24-06-2020 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10869207)
I'm sure it would be the same if the numbers were reversed, if the population was 90% black. Money talks at the end of the day

"If white people were the oppressed minority it would be the same" is not a defence of racism.

rusticgal 24-06-2020 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10869223)
Oh really ?? Well what about abuse victims that only spoke out when the #metoo movement came about.

Unless you've been in Alexandra's shoes then you can't really judge .


You don’t know anything about me....my husband has been there...spoke up and ultimately lost out on a career...a big career... So I can ****ing judge thank you.
Always admired him for it and he always knew he did the right thing and reported it at the time...because when something isn’t right...it isn’t right so you need to stand up for yourself and do the right thing.

GoldHeart 24-06-2020 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10869369)
You don’t know anything about me....my husband has been there...spoke up and ultimately lost out on a career...a big career... So I can ****ing judge thank you.
Always admired him for it and he always knew he did the right thing and reported it at the time...because when something isn’t right...it isn’t right so you need to stand up for yourself and do the right thing.

Because it's always that simple to "do the right thing" ? as you put it :rolleyes: . I don't know what your husband's situation was , but things AREN'T always that straight forward , she was trying to make a successful music career and probably felt her hands were tied and that she wouldn't get the support.

Alexandra was only 19 when she was on xf and she was under alot of pressure. She was clearly too worried to say anything at the time , as i said already this has now encouraged other people to come forward .

She's not alone and other's have experienced similar things , and they probably felt they couldn't do anything about it .

arista 24-06-2020 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10868823)
There's already a thread?


Post it
please.

GoldHeart 24-06-2020 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10869393)
Post it
please.

It's in the XF category , but i didn't realise at the time when i made this thread.

arista 25-06-2020 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10869400)
It's in the XF category , but i didn't realise at the time when i made this thread.

OK fair enough

rusticgal 25-06-2020 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10869392)
Because it's always that simple to "do the right thing" ? as you put it :rolleyes: . I don't know what your husband's situation was , but things AREN'T always that straight forward , she was trying to make a successful music career and probably felt her hands were tied and that she wouldn't get the support.

Alexandra was only 19 when she was on xf and she was under alot of pressure. She was clearly too worried to say anything at the time , as i said already this has now encouraged other people to come forward .

She's not alone and other's have experienced similar things , and they probably felt they couldn't do anything about it .

No you don’t know the details...but I can assure you his abuse was far worse and he was 4 years younger than Alexandra Burke.
Her hands were not tied...she decided that fame and fortune meant more to her. That may sound harsh. She’s had her fame and fortune...something my husband sacrificed for speaking up and doing what was right...she should have spoken up when she won it and she could have made a huge impact...but she rolled with the fame and put it to one side...until now. :shrug:

GoldHeart 25-06-2020 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10869404)
No you don’t know the details...but I can assure you his abuse was far worse and he was 4 years younger than Alexandra Burke.
Her hands were not tied...she decided that fame and fortune meant more to her. That may sound harsh. She’s had her fame and fortune...something my husband sacrificed for speaking up and doing what was right...she should have spoken up when she won it and she could have made a huge impact...but she rolled with the fame and put it to one side...until now. :shrug:

I wish you'd stop making out it was that easy for her to speak out :rolleyes: , she was in the public eye and under pressure to do well.

As i said what about victims of abuse / assault who take years to come forward?? as they were too scared and bullied ? .

Try watching these videos and see if you get a better understanding :idc:







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