Yapping away as usual.

...anyways, the thread title is inaccurate which is inciteful...

She was born here and radicalised here, our systems failed her so she’s our responsibility, that’s really the crux of it

thats up to the court to decide though isn't it

Lots of these young girls were/are groomed in the same sort of way a peadophile would groom a child to take advantage of them.

My bad, feeling a bit ruff this morning.

...the reality of life is that ‘second chances’ aren’t up to us, they’re up to the courts and justice systems of the world...there would be no remnants of society to see at all if we condoned ‘bullet to the back of the head’ behaviour...

Of course the would, there would be a clear line, take an inoccent person life and you lose yours.

People are still murdering innocent people everyday day of the week so prison is no deterrent.

Title changed

Hmmm even if I did condone the death sentence for murder (I don't, for many reasons) - there is actually no evidence that she has directly killed anyone.

Also, prison not being a deterrent doesn't mean that death sentences would be. There really are only 3 scenarios when someone commits murder

1) The person believes they won't get caught.

2) The person has lost control of logical thought so they aren't considering the consequences.

3) The person just doesn't care any more.


In all three scenarios, attempting to make "a worse deterrent" makes no difference.

...an eye for an eye didn’t work that well in Biblical times either which is why we evolved a little in our societies and justice systems...they’re not perfect for sure but taking them back to barbaric isn’t the solution to that...

Bring her back. Lock her up.

...:love:..so perfectly accurate, thank you so much...

Yes I think that now tbh.

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She isn’t going to face justice over there, she should go through our legal system and face the consequences

Allowing murders to live does not make us better people, spend the money on good people who deserve it not those that a took a father mother brother sister or child away from there families.

And the justice system is a joke, a day in prison is worth two days in the outside world how the fcuk can that be right.

Someone gets 10 years and in reality they will be out in five.

...so far as we’re aware, she’s not a murderer so I don’t get that reference anyway...what she’s been granted is a right to appeal and no one knows the outcome of that...

We all know what that as soon as shes back on british soil we will never get her out again. Bar her.

Prison should be about rehabilitation (wherever possible) and if someone is getting their sentenced halved, it's most likely for good behaviour, not for extra criminality.

How will she get back?

Her case is being funded by the taxpayer :laugh:

There are far worse people at threat to our country and its people (several of whom scarily in positions of enormous power) than this young, naive, immature fool. Should've served her the consequences from the start so everyone can move on.

If the court does allow her to stay, she is condemning her entire family to a lifetime of constant surveillance

You think they aren't already?