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Tom4784 12-11-2020 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10952529)
Kid kills them selves accidentally with dads gun
Kid drowns in the bath while mum is on the phone, it’s the parents fault in both cases not the gun or the bath waters fault.

That's a silly argument. The accident shooting death would only happen if there was a gun in the house in the first place, you can't really avoid water.

You can certainly blame a parent for poor storage of a gun if a child gets their hands on it, but the fact is if they didn't have a gun, it wouldn't be an issue. Your example is apples and oranges.

Crimson Dynamo 12-11-2020 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10952744)
That's a silly argument. The accident shooting death would only happen if there was a gun in the house in the first place, you can't really avoid water.

You can certainly blame a parent for poor storage of a gun if a child gets their hands on it, but the fact is if they didn't have a gun, it wouldn't be an issue. Your example is apples and oranges.

you can make the same argument with any swimming pool - in fact i think the numbers of kids who accidentally drown in pools is higher than being accidentally shot by a poorly stored handgun per annum

thesheriff443 12-11-2020 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10952744)
That's a silly argument. The accident shooting death would only happen if there was a gun in the house in the first place, you can't really avoid water.

You can certainly blame a parent for poor storage of a gun if a child gets their hands on it, but the fact is if they didn't have a gun, it wouldn't be an issue. Your example is apples and oranges.

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If a parent never had a bath but a shower then the kid can’t drown in the bath.

I didn’t bring kids into this debate as a reason not to own a gun Niamh did.

And then said to lt tell that to the dead kid, but that statement defy’s logic.

And it’s not even an argument, have a gun don’t have one I don’t care either way.

Niamh. 12-11-2020 06:13 PM

I didn't realise you would take a figure of speech so literally Sheriff. Luckily I wasn't talking to you though at the time.

thesheriff443 12-11-2020 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10952799)
I didn't realise you would take a figure of speech so literally Sheriff. Luckily I wasn't talking to you though at the time.

Sorry didn’t realise I can only post to a direct post.

Beso 12-11-2020 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10952744)
That's a silly argument. The accident shooting death would only happen if there was a gun in the house in the first place, you can't really avoid water.

You can certainly blame a parent for poor storage of a gun if a child gets their hands on it, but the fact is if they didn't have a gun, it wouldn't be an issue. Your example is apples and oranges.

The parent will always be blamed for poor storage if a child does get thier hands on it.:shrug:

And a parent will be seen as a man or woman defending thier children if they use it.:shrug:

Beso 12-11-2020 08:20 PM

And can you add the word tank, to the title please LT

Glenn. 12-11-2020 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10952755)
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If a parent never had a bath but a shower then the kid can’t drown in the bath

So you agree that if there were no guns in the house a fatal accident involving a gun cannot happen...

GoldHeart 13-11-2020 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10952463)
I think its a really difficult question for people who live here to answer, if we were brought up and it was normal to have one, and you saw them in Walmart every day I guess I might as it would be pretty much normalised.

as someone brought up in Ireland then no

I understand what you're saying Cherie , as if any of us were born and grew up in America it would definitely be normal to see guns in regular shops and have easy access and maybe think "ahh why not buy one for myself" .

But i personally still don't think i'd ever want to buy a gun or feel the need to to want one , i'd rather invest in other things like a home security system .

Cherie 13-11-2020 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10952917)
I understand what you're saying Cherie , as if any of us were born and grew up in America it would definitely be normal to see guns in regular shops and have easy access and maybe think "ahh why not buy one for myself" .

But i personally still don't think i'd ever want to buy a gun or feel the need to to want one , i'd rather invest in other things like a home security system .

I tend to agree with you Goldie, I can never imagine myself firing a gun at someone

thesheriff443 13-11-2020 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 10952893)
So you agree that if there were no guns in the house a fatal accident involving a gun cannot happen...

Considering on average a child dies every five days in America from choking on food the risk of a child being killed by their parents gun is very low.

A home is full of every day objects that can kill a child.

thesheriff443 13-11-2020 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10952948)
I tend to agree with you Goldie, I can never imagine myself firing a gun at someone

But you are trigger happy when it comes to using your death stare :joker:

Cherie 13-11-2020 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10952953)
But you are trigger happy when it comes to using your death stare :joker:

:smug:

GoldHeart 13-11-2020 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10952948)
I tend to agree with you Goldie, I can never imagine myself firing a gun at someone

Exactly plus what if it got in the wrong hands , or if you accidentally fired it . I don't know the first thing about using a gun and wouldn't feel comfortable.

Ammi 13-11-2020 07:32 AM

... I read that in 2019...three in ten American citizens own a gun...so seven out of ten people who actually do live there in that ‘armed world of danger’...still choose not to arm themselves with a death weapon...although that three in ten still translates to a huge amount of people...it still seems a minority mind set to be gun owning...

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Crimson Dynamo 13-11-2020 08:25 AM

Gun ownership in the USA rose 70% in March i think i am right in saying

Ammi 13-11-2020 08:40 AM

...another interesting thing I’m reading is that a gun owned is much more likely to be stolen by someone than it is to be used in any ‘self defence’ situation....

Crimson Dynamo 13-11-2020 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10953024)
...another interesting thing I’m reading is that a gun owned is much more likely to be stolen by someone than it is to be used in any ‘self defence’ situation....

how many times have nuclear powers used their bombs since 1945?

Gusto Brunt 15-11-2020 10:44 AM

Probably, yes. only because thieves and burglars carry guns in the USA.

Largely, in the UK, they don't.

The Slim Reaper 15-11-2020 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10953028)
how many times have nuclear powers used their bombs since 1945?

What are you on about?

Amy Jade 15-11-2020 12:32 PM

No.

MTVN 15-11-2020 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10952979)
... I read that in 2019...three in ten American citizens own a gun...so seven out of ten people who actually do live there in that ‘armed world of danger’...still choose not to arm themselves with a death weapon...although that three in ten still translates to a huge amount of people...it still seems a minority mind set to be gun owning...

I guess that varies quite heavily by area, there's probably little gun ownership in many cities where restrictions are a lot tighter but I'd expect its more like a majority in the south

I don't think I'd own one but I did quite enjoy shooting a couple for the first time this year at a Texas gun range. Felt slightly strange to see a load of people casually strolling around with firearms but it's just totally normal to them. 'Ready to get a taste of freedom huh guys' was how the bloke greeted us, ten minute 'safety briefing' which we were too hungover to take in properly then we were left to it

The Slim Reaper 15-11-2020 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10954023)
I guess that varies quite heavily by area, there's probably little gun ownership in many cities where restrictions are a lot tighter but I'd expect its more like a majority in the south

I don't think I'd own one but I did quite enjoy shooting a couple for the first time this year at a Texas gun range. Felt slightly strange to see a load of people casually strolling around with firearms but it's just totally normal to them. 'Ready to get a taste of freedom huh guys' was how the bloke greeted us, ten minute 'safety briefing' which we were too hungover to take in properly then we were left to it

Matt admitting to murder is the perfect way to round off 2020.

MTVN 15-11-2020 01:08 PM

Didn't say they died, it was my first time after all :shame:


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